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post #1 of 29 Old 04-24-2017, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
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Front brakes feeling dull/vague

Riding on Saturday, approaching a roundabout I apply front brakes and gradually let them out but also keeping pressure while still tipping in.

As I start leaning over, it feels as if the brakes just let go and the bike pushes wide. I put it down to accidently touching throttle as I entered the corner, but the bike didn't surge or rev higher.

Riding today, it feels as if the brakes are very dull and feel vague. Initial bite is non existent and I have to pull harder than normal to get less than optimal braking...

The bike now has just over 2000kms on and I had my first spirited ride on Saturday (time constraints) . I am sure the brakes are bedded in as well by now.

I have also read of all the brake issues on the forum (oem brake pads, possible air in lines, etc) but I am not sure if these apply to my situation.

Has anyone else experienced this?

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Front brakes feeling dull/vague

Were you riding hard? Where the brakes heated up? Hard to do on the street. But if you did have air then the heat could cause that.

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stock brakes pads are useless...wouldn't be surprised if its glazed the pads....also very common for the system to have air trapped it it from the factory....i've owned about 15 Suzuki's over the years about 10 from new and they all had some air in either the front of rear....dealer should have checked them at the 1st service
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I wonder if you went over a slick spot that caused the ABS system to intervene?

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stock brakes pads are useless...wouldn't be surprised if its glazed the pads....also very common for the system to have air trapped it it from the factory....i've owned about 15 Suzuki's over the years about 10 from new and they all had some air in either the front of rear....dealer should have checked them at the 1st service
I'm hoping it is just the pads. They feel like wood on wood at the moment!

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I wonder if you went over a slick spot that caused the ABS system to intervene?
Definitely not no. I managed to do exactly the same in a few other corners.

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stock pads are crap i put in ebc hh much better
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yep change out the crappy stock pads.. I'm just about to fit a set of SBS sintard pads.
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can anyone here answer this...

stock pads i need full hand to brake hard enough for abs to kick in..

EBC pads... two fingers enough to make abs kick in?
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If you pull your brake lever VERY softly/slowly, do you feel a 'click' where the piston or caliper is maybe getting stuck? I had similar issues to you - brakes seemed great for awhile, then they kind of sucked. I brought the bike to the dealer for the 'click' and they noted that braking was less than ideal, and blamed it on glazing. They said they cleaned off the glaze to return it to normal, and I almost couldn't stop leaving the parking lot. Ever since that first click the front brake felt like wood.
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