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post #31 of 47 Old 03-23-2017, 06:41 PM
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Also, @dqban was indeed correct. Putting values in the AFR table down in the deceleration zone causes the autotune to come up with stupid trim values, which will make your tune much worse, not better. This is why I was starting to feel like I was chasing my tail in trying to get things right. The AFR table in Dynojet's (Frank's) UK Map keeps away from this zone on purpose. I'll post more later, in a separate thread.

Rod, are you able to screen shot and post the AFR table?
I can't access the AFR table from a power commander map as I don't have the actual PC unit.
I downloaded the software etc and can open the map file just have no access to the AFR table.

I'm looking for a good AFR table to use with Woolich Autotune (both TPS & IAP AFR tables)
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Rod, are you able to screen shot and post the AFR table?
I can't access the AFR table from a power commander map as I don't have the actual PC unit.
I downloaded the software etc and can open the map file just have no access to the AFR table.

I'm looking for a good AFR table to use with Woolich Autotune (both TPS & IAP AFR tables)


You can open the AFR table in the software without the PCV

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You can open the AFR table in the software without the PCV
@nicka : How? When I load the map the AFR table doesn't open unless I am plugged into the bike. The table is there, because the option to delete it is available, but I can't see a way to view it (it's not in the list of tables on the left).
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Rod, are you able to screen shot and post the AFR table?
I can't access the AFR table from a power commander map as I don't have the actual PC unit.
I downloaded the software etc and can open the map file just have no access to the AFR table.

I'm looking for a good AFR table to use with Woolich Autotune (both TPS & IAP AFR tables)
Will do later this afternoon @KiwiJaZ . I need to connect up later and check my trim values, so I'll screenshot the AFR then.
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@nicka : How? When I load the map the AFR table doesn't open unless I am plugged into the bike. The table is there, because the option to delete it is available, but I can't see a way to view it (it's not in the list of tables on the left).


I'll have a look tonight but last night I downloaded the file from the link you posted then viewed the afr table without being connected from the list on the left like I always do or am I missing something

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I'll have a look tonight but last night I downloaded the file from the link you posted then viewed the afr table without being connected from the list on the left like I always do or am I missing something
I found it @KiwiJaZ . It's an option. Under Options/Environment Options - "Show Autotune tables even if power commander is not Autotune enabled". I personally deleted the 0% throttle AFR targets at 750-1500RPM. I don't have any deceleration popping (which is what I'm guessing they're for) and my idle is perfect.
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Thanks guys I have got it open now.

I have transposed the PCV AFR table to my Woolich TPS AFR table.

Going to take the ECU back to stock then collect some data to apply the PCV AFR against.

I had previously changed all the target AFR values including the IAP table so interesting to see what it is like with only limited values changing.
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Thanks guys I have got it open now.

I have transposed the PCV AFR table to my Woolich TPS AFR table.

Going to take the ECU back to stock then collect some data to apply the PCV AFR against.

I had previously changed all the target AFR values including the IAP table so interesting to see what it is like with only limited values changing.
Excellent. Keen to hear how you go with it.
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Good write up, but regarding #1 :

I had no problem installing the Arrow headers with the radiator still on (unbolted).
So no, you must *not* drain and remove the radiator.
But it sure will make the installation much easier.


The EXCVA servo motor on the other hand is rather cumbersome to get out.
I came here to see if it was necessary to drain/remove the radiator to perform the 600 mile service header torque specs. Glad to see this post confirms I should be able to just unbolt the radiator.

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I came here to see if it was necessary to drain/remove the radiator to perform the 600 mile service header torque specs. Glad to see this post confirms I should be able to just unbolt the radiator.
I'm guessing that it'll depend entirely on your torque wrench size and shape. One of the reasons I removed my radiator was that I didn't think I'd be able to torque the bolts correctly with it in place. I'm keen to see how you go.
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