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The GSXS SHINES THROUGH!

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Naked Bike Shootout: Honda CB1000R vs. Kawasaki Z1000 vs. Suzuki GSX-S1000 vs. Yamaha FZ-09 | MOTORCYCLIST



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I felt the exact same way as the 1st Off the Record Comment having a FZ-09.

It will be interesting if they do a new shootout once the FZ-10/MT-10 arrives.


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I find it funny that they say the FZ 09 throttle issue is not as bad as the GSX. I don't know, but I really don't find the GSX throttle all that bad. Sure I have only had it a few days now, but I have no issue holding a constant speed. At real low parking lot speeds for a u-turn or such, it does seem a little sensitive, but manageable with the clutch.

I took the FJ 09 out before the GSX, and the FJ 09 throttle is supposed to be refined compared to the FZ. The whole time the throttle on the FJ just felt really jumpy and the front end very loose. Didn't even bother with the FZ after that. Now it is a little embarrassing, but I have not stalled a bike in years. Coming off the line on the FJ nice and slow behind a semi into an immediate right turn and boom, stalled it. I had my wife on the back and she even asked me what happened. She was shocked as I had never done that to her before. Couldn't believe how sensitive the throttle and clutch were when trying for a slow smooth start.

The Honda was a non-starter. No TC, No ABS and more $$$$, not happening. As as I like Kawi in general, I just couldn't see spending a full day on that seat.

I just think I am still in awe with this bike. Suzuki has made this such a bargain. Well not dripping with tech, it has what I consider the important stuff that the others don't and all at a lower price, minus the FZ.
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Yet another review that is critical of the throttle response. It even went so far as to say that some of the reviewers considered it reason enough to not buy the bike. If I had been able to test ride the bike before the purchase, the throttle response would have kept me from making the purchase. It simply burns me up that Suzuki produced such a marvelous machine with such a serious issue. Even though I have improved the throttle issue via PCV and Throttle Tamer, I have now put enough miles on it (street and track) to know that I will never be very happy with the bike as long as the throttle issue exist.
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The throttle response on the Suzuki isn't bad at all. My FZ-09 was complete garbage prior to having my ECU flashed...even now, the Suzuki is better.
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I think bikes vary with the issue and I have noticed temperature has some to do with it as I have noticed it before and again last night riding for over an hour on back roads and the temperature dropped about 5 degrees in that time from about 20 to 15 degrees C and the colder it got the worse it got even with an altered throttle tube that's generally smooth on and off the throttle and last night has me wanting to put the throttle tamer back on.
I did notice it really bad one day riding into a cold damp mountain range where it got real bad as i entered and this was after 2 days riding about 800km with no problems at all except for the mountain range
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I wonder if the F model has better aerodynamics because my average mileage hasn't been below 45 mpg. And look at that trap speed: 132 mph! That's what we're talking about. Mine has a little "throttle snatch" but have been trying to train right wrist. Last week, temperature was high 80s (31C). Perhaps it gets less "snatchy" with hotter (ambient) temp? If so, I'll see what happens when it hits +110 (+43 C) in the next couple three months.
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Good find Thumper
From what I've read it seams like we could build one good bike out of the four of them.
We would need the Honda's fueling, the Kwakers low down torque the Yammies er...err lightness and our Suzies sportiness and engine

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Yet another review that is critical of the throttle response. It even went so far as to say that some of the reviewers considered it reason enough to not buy the bike. If I had been able to test ride the bike before the purchase, the throttle response would have kept me from making the purchase. It simply burns me up that Suzuki produced such a marvelous machine with such a serious issue. Even though I have improved the throttle issue via PCV and Throttle Tamer, I have now put enough miles on it (street and track) to know that I will never be very happy with the bike as long as the throttle issue exist.
With both the throttle tamer and PCV how smooth is the bike now, having a tamer it fixes the on/off response perfectly for me and it smooths it so much i can feel it's fuel problems as it goes into open/closed loop at constant revs and surges at 4250-4500 rpm and having just a PCV my guess is it would fix the fuel problems but not the on/off as the stock map does not touch the fuel till 10% throttle so does both give it a perfect feel ?

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Yeah I don't think the throttle is snappy either. Especially after 4,000 miles, it really smooths out.



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