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post #1 of 15 Old 06-17-2019, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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How much difference between '18 vs '16

Had a '16 for about 1500 miles. Hated the throttle snatch. Sold it. I see where the '18 and up have been updated. How much better is the throttle and brakes between the 18 vs 16. Thanks for your input.
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Have '18 ZAL8, absolutely no snatch whatsoever. Not sure about brakes 'cos havent ridden a '16 one. Still I feel brakes could've been better tho'

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I am sorry for useless reply. I have a 18, rode it and it had some snatch trying to keep steady low speeds. Maybe not as bad as 16, it was first one I rode so I cannot compare. but... theres a few things you can do to either 16 or 18 or 19 to make them perfect.

Flash the ECU- 200 bucks
Set the TPS position- free
throttle tamer- I would go the first two routes together, and if you need more smoothness I guess install this?

Reflash is all im rocking myself.
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My 18 never had a problem with snatch from day one. Brakes are strong. My problem with the throttle is related to the sh*t shock. Trying to maintain steady throttle when cruising can be tricky on the roads around here. I'll be getting the K-tech soon.
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My 2018 throttle snatch whent away after 1000 miles of break in, and it was perfect


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I have an 18 bike - got it in December. First ride was awful - in my view borderline dangerous! Adjusted OE suspension and it helped a little, replaced suspension with k-Tech forks and shock and spring - better, adjusted TPS to 1.13v as per youtube video a small i9mprovement again. it is now better at slower speeds but you can't get away from the fact that the throttle will always be very responsive - to the point where I try and just rest my hand on the throttle rather than hold it especially over very bumpy roads or at speed around corners in particular. I still plan to take the bike to Andy at Junction 33 to get the ECU reflashed. I spoke to him back in January and I believe he has a lot of experience with these bikes. On the UK Facebook page I have read of someone who has spoken to their local garage about fitting the Katana throttle workings to his bike as it seems to be fixed on that - someone did suggest that they have fitted what amounts to a throttle tamer to the Katana. I hope this helps - I can understand you getting rid of the bike - its frustrating tho coz in every other respect its bang on. Good luck.
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Sounds like the 18 up are hit and miss. I have a 12 CB1000R for past 3-4 years and the throttle is silky smooth. I had the 16 Suzuki and CB at the same time to compare back to back. Still would like to try another one sometime.
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So in order of what has been done to my bike, the dealer checked the TPS prior to delivering my 2nd hand bike as it's a known issue. Response still very strange, in other words unpredictable, due to slack in the cables so I adjusted as much slack out of throttle cable as I could and this improved it considerably.
Still not perfect so I went with the recommendation of the salesman at my local Suzuki dealers and ordered the throttle tube from the new Katana. This is actually the same part number as the throttle tube for the 2019 GSX-S so I would assume the 2019, and possibly later 2018 bikes already have this.
The upshot is that my bike is now significantly better than it was to the point that I don't feel the need to have the ECU flashed, it's not 100% perfect but a good 95%+ . The only issue left is the hunting on a constant throttle at low speeds due to mapping for emission purposes and isn't enough of an issue for me to worry about.

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I do want to state, theres more benefits to flashing than just fixing the snatchy throttle, it runs smoother is a given, but theres some restrictions and retarding gearing and other small benefits. Even if you didn't want fueling adjusted, the other benefits are a nice factor like fuel cut disable. Not so abrupt stopping, while some here say they enjoy the hard stopping off acceleration, I believe the majority really enjoys/wanted it.
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Hi Graham, I'm pleased you have had success following that route. I am following in your shoes in that I am now considering the 'Katana' throttle tube and other throttle adjustments before getting the ecu done. Thanks for the comment it has helped me make my mind up! Cheers, Steve.
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