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post #1 of 20 Old 07-05-2019, 06:37 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone use this oil ...motul 7100 full synthetic .
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Haven't used it, but if full synthetic is what you're after, Motul is good stuff.
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Agree with Rapido1 - Motul full synthetic is an outstanding oil. Had a VFR riding buddy that would buy nothing else. I have to say, his bike did shift very smoothly.
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Thanks Guys ,iv bought it now but keep hearing people saying don't use full synthetic on our bikes as clutch will slip . Any advice much appreciated .
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I've used it and like it a lot. It seems to hold up longer than their race line 300V which I have also used. I've switched off between that and Amsoil Synthetic Metric.
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I'm normally a fan of Motul but after about 2,000 miles on 5100 I was having some problems with gear changes from 4-5-6 at higher revs especially with clutchless up changes.
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I'm normally a fan of Motul but after about 2,000 miles on 5100 I was having some problems with gear changes from 4-5-6 at higher revs especially with clutchless up changes.
Curious, did different oil fix the problem?
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Not sure if your guys in the states can get this oil but I only ever use Penrite oils.
I’ve been using it for a lot of years in different motorcycles and its been great.
I also run Penrite in our cars and mower.
In the gsxs I’m running 10w40 full synthetic factory racing.
I only buy it when it’s on special so Ive always got a couple in the garage.
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Motor Oil is one of those subjects where everyone has an opinion but very few people have any real knowledge to base it on. It's all "black magic".

After spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours doing oil testing in a taxi fleet plus, because I was curious I did for over 10 years with my own cars and motorcycles.
The biggest takeaway from all that testing was that the brand is the least important factor when it comes to selecting your oil. Every brand will have some oils that are suitable for your application and some that are not.

Provided you use the right grade (SG, SJ, JASO MA etc.) and the right viscosity range and change it within the manufacturers recommended intervals the overall life of the engine is going to vary by a small percentage (<3%) of km's at most. That was our result with taxi's ranging from new to 900,000km. We worked closely with a lab in Malaga WA and tested every suitable oil that was on the market in WA.

Contrary to popular belief there's almost no difference between car and bike oils. The contents are just about the same. The "friction modifier" in car oils that don't meet JASO MA is the only real difference. Otherwise, the additive pack used by the oil manufacturer will be mostly the same it will just be the percentages of the additives that vary.

Those additives come from only a handful of companies throughout the world, so the additives in Motul and Castrol and Amsoil and Penrite etc. came from the same maker, probably even the same batches. If the oil was bottled in Australia then the entire contents (including base-stock oil) was the same as others bottled in Australia. I assume the US and other countries is probably the same or similar.

The biggest benefits of synthetic oils are that you can run a longer service time interval if you're not using the bike much and it's ability to handle high heat (+125C). If neither of these are a concern then you'll get the same from a semi-synthetic at a lower overall cost. We did find that mineral-only oils, though they contained many of the same additives because the base stock was of a lower quality would stop offering the same protection as the other oils much sooner. e.g. Mobil 1 was over 15,000km but the cheap mineral oil was done by 5,000km.

If you really want to know what's happening in your engine I really recommend getting your own oil tested. It's the only way to really know. The labs can tell you whether your oil is still protecting your engine. Large fleet users require this kind of information because it can save hundreds of thousands of dollars in maintenance and lifespan.
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I forgot to mention, the difference between racing oil and road oil is that the road oil is formulated to ensure it lasts for the entire service interval. Racing oils sacrifice lifespan for greater heat resistance and extreme pressure additives.

Being in Australia we're lucky that our oils can contain zinc as an extreme pressure additive. This is the last line of defense against metal to metal contact when the oil gets too hot and loses its viscosity.

Unfortunately in many other parts of the world zinc has been removed for environmental reasons and they've had to use other additives which don't provide the same protection.

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