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No centerstand available.

I used to have a Kawaskai ZRX 1200 and so mostly lurked on the ZRXOA forum for a number of years.
The ZRX does not easily lend itself to a centerstand, not enough for the aftermarket to
develop one. But one of the members did. It was one of those things where members paid
money and waited. And waited. Probably still waiting. (Not me. I didn't bite.)

Accessories International DID offer a Hepco-Becker centerstand on their
website--for the GSX-S 1000---until very recently. When I inquired
about it, I got this short reply:

"The part number was discontinued due to lack of demand and it is no longer available."

So that idea was a dead end and made buying the Abba stand a no-brainer for me.

But (!) I also thought about it and concluded that GSX-S 1000 owners must be a different demographic than the ZRX folks. GSX-S guys are probably more sporting and not willing to put up with a centerstand for a bit of convenience when doing maintenance.
That and the ZRX folks are probably in retirement homes. Ha, ha.

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I remember back in the 80s one of my friends bought a brand new gsxr750 and It didn’t have a centre stand
and I’m like that’s weird LOL..
Then it ended up becoming the norm on most bikes.
I think its a pain in the rear not having one especially when lubing the chain.
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Blame it on the trend for under the engine slung exhausts (that deep and long steel box) with little side or no side cans.
Any centre stand will be ridiculous low.Win's and loses, I am afraid.

If a single sided swingarm bike has no centre stand option, but a chain drive, maintenance of the chain is a pain without a lifter stand.
When their like this, why can't the OEM's fit a plate at a suitable angle so the rear of the bike can be jacked up against the side stand and front wheel.
All Car OEM's have 4 strengthened for jacking places along the car sides.
From my observation, it seems no Bike OEM does this to make it a safe operation without resorting to a one way lifter stand or even bike's without the provision for fitting the lifter bobbins.

I think there is no excuse for all Bike OEM's to provide the swingarm with tapped hole's for lift bobbins on all double sided swingarm bikes.
Because it's not a sportsbike is NO excuse. The cost is peanuts in robotic production lines today.
A Honda CBR1000 has, and Honda CBR500 &650R don't. Bobbins are much safer when lifting than those right angled under the swing arm lifter alternative adaptor.
I hate them intensely, as they can and do slide around at the critical moment of the lift and lowering of the bike. Not everyone has an helpful assistant to brace the handlebars.

Rob.
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I used a ratchet strap on each pillion peg tied to my gym power rack and a front wheel chock to keep the front end steady when fitting the new rear shock.

I was successful, yet the entire time I was thinking "there must be an easier way to do this".

The jack lift points on the swingarm/ frame makes allot of sense.

When life throws you curves, lean into them.
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Blame it on the trend for under the engine slung exhausts (that deep and long steel box) with little side or no side cans.
Any centre stand will be ridiculous low.Win's and loses, I am afraid.

If a single sided swingarm bike has no centre stand option, but a chain drive, maintenance of the chain is a pain without a lifter stand.
When their like this, why can't the OEM's fit a plate at a suitable angle so the rear of the bike can be jacked up against the side stand and front wheel.
All Car OEM's have 4 strengthened for jacking places along the car sides.
From my observation, it seems no Bike OEM does this to make it a safe operation without resorting to a one way lifter stand or even bike's without the provision for fitting the lifter bobbins.

I think there is no excuse for all Bike OEM's to provide the swingarm with tapped hole's for lift bobbins on all double sided swingarm bikes.
Because it's not a sportsbike is NO excuse. The cost is peanuts in robotic production lines today.
A Honda CBR1000 has, and Honda CBR500 &650R don't. Bobbins are much safer when lifting than those right angled under the swing arm lifter alternative adaptor.
I hate them intensely, as they can and do slide around at the critical moment of the lift and lowering of the bike. Not everyone has an helpful assistant to brace the handlebars.

Rob.
So Rob, I'm not sure what bike you're referring too, but my GSX-S1000 swingarm has very nicely made spool mounts. I use mine all the time and it's a simple one man operation to get it on and off my pitbull..
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So Rob, I'm not sure what bike you're referring too, but my GSX-S1000 swingarm has very nicely made spool mounts. I use mine all the time and it's a simple one man operation to get it on and off my pitbull..
Mike,
I was not referring to our GSX-S Family, We all know what they have it.

My stones were thrown by me at the Manufacturer's models which use a chain for the drive to the wheel, but do not provide provision for the bobbins/spools/reels call them what ever for chain and wheel maintenance.
Suzuki are much better than Honda in this regard. Hence my example of the CBR Family.

One strong reason against buying the Ducati 1100 Scrambler Sport over the GSX-S1000, was no tapped holes in the swingarm for the reels.
Monster 800/821 get them, Scrambler 800 (it's based on the Monster 800), does not.

Just BECAUSE it's not a Race Replica Sport Bike like a GSX-R, R1, Ninja 1000R type, that's NO reason why all dual swingarm bikes CANNOT be made with provision for lifting spools.

(The Background being paddock stands were needed for true racing bikes as centre stands were ditched because they could tip the bike in a corner.
The paddock stand allowed the slick rear tyred wheel to get a new tyre or wet tyre.
Routine maintenance of a chain was and is incidental to racing).

I am saying to the OEM's - times have changed, fit the tapped holes to all dual swingarms, and don't say 'their not racebikes' as the 'do nothing' excuse anymore.

Rob.
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For lifting the bike (both wheels off the floor) I use the Constands Central Stand from Motea. Solid as a rock.

For chain lubing it is easier to use the Rothewald Wheel Roller from Louis.

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For lifting the bike (both wheels off the floor) I use the Constands Central Stand from Motea. Solid as a rock.

For chain lubing it is easier to use the Rothewald Wheel Roller from Louis.
Kasu, do you have a naked bike or the "F" model? I'm wondering if the Constands works with an F (fairing) model.

If so, Amazon has it for $200, sounds like a bargain.
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I used a ratchet strap on each pillion peg tied to my gym power rack and a front wheel chock to keep the front end steady when fitting the new rear shock.

I was successful, yet the entire time I was thinking "there must be an easier way to do this".

The jack lift points on the swingarm/ frame makes allot of sense.
Cracking training idea there, 200kg lat pull downs. Well impressed.
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I have a standard style paddock stand, which I hate using as lifting the bike is a nervous time and I bought the Abba stand which takes longer to set up but far more stable .Knowing me, knowing you all it takes is money, money, money.
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