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Gearing suggestions

Had my first proper ride on my 2016 GSXS today. Love almost everything about it, but I feel like it needs to be geared down so I can enjoy more of the engine before getting into going-to-prison speeds. What gearing changes have you all tried? I'm thinking of just starting with -1 on the front and see how that goes.

Also I'm having real trouble clutching up the front wheel on this bike. The lull between, say, 6k and 8-9k is giving me a really hard time. Not sure what I'm doing wrong exactly (I'm not exactly a wheelie expert) but I'm thinking a gearing change might help there too.

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Can't help with the clutch ups but I went -1+2 and love it
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The lull between, say, 6k and 8-9k is giving me a really hard time. Not sure what I'm doing wrong exactly (I'm not exactly a wheelie expert) but I'm thinking a gearing change might help there too.
That lull is horrible. It is due to the way the ECM fueling is programed to meet EU requirements. Have your ECM flashed by someone like Dano's Performance and it will be gone. Your bike will be a freaking beast from idle to 12,000 rpm. The fueling map is one of several excellent changes he will make.
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My bike had the midrange flat spot....but a lull between 8 and 9K? Never felt anything from 8k up except brutal acceleration even on the stock ECU tune.

I did -1+2 and its awesome
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I’m at -1 up front with a tune, and I cannot hold full throttle in first gear. It will go beyond wheelies. It would flip over backwards. I can do power wheelies in 1st thru 3rd gears with just a twist of the throttle. +2 in the back would just be for the sake of +2 in the back in my case. I loved what the -1 did, and it will be what I stick with on this bike. I may go 520 chain later, but gonna wear this stuff out first!

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I am just +1 up on the rear (it is the 520 setup with aluminum rear Renthal sprocket) and that is only because I run the 190/55 rear tire. Bike will still wheelie up no clutch 1-3rd but not always fully up in 3rd just depends how hard I twist the throttle back. Bike has the full system M4, BMC race air filter, Dano's ecu flash tune and not's of junk removed from it.

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I am just +1 up on the rear (it is the 520 setup with aluminum rear Renthal sprocket) and that is only because I run the 190/55 rear tire. Bike will still wheelie up no clutch 1-3rd but not always fully up in 3rd just depends how hard I twist the throttle back. Bike has the full system M4, BMC race air filter, Dano's ecu flash tune and not's of junk removed from it.
I'm one down one up 190 / 55 cat delete Danos ECU Flash. Can you explain how you get the front up in second gear without using the clutch. Don't care how hard I hammer it it does not lift. Are you snapping the throttle open from say 7000 and bouncing or yanking on handlebars?
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I'm one down one up 190 / 55 cat delete Danos ECU Flash. Can you explain how you get the front up in second gear without using the clutch. Don't care how hard I hammer it it does not lift. Are you snapping the throttle open from say 7000 and bouncing or yanking on handlebars?
I would guess with mine 2 up in the rear and a 55 rear with a decat our bikes would be similar. I also have the flash. Mine will easily pull the front up in second rolling into it, I have never really tried 3rd gear. Also I have never pinned the throttle in any gear, never had the need in 8000 miles.

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I’m 140 lbs so I guess that might help. Guess I’ll toot my horn a little but I road raced for 17 years with WERA in the SE US and cool down win wheelies were my specialty **** if I didnt win I still did them lol. My dirtbike background goes all the way back to 12 years old and wheelies have always been a staple of me riding a dirtbike. I’m no stunted and do not proclaim to be one but I can bust a sit down wheelie on a 1000 for quite a ways.

Not all wheelies end well, I have a plate and numerous screws in my left wrist from a stand up wheelie gone wrong in 05 on a GSX-R750 back in 2006. That one hurt.!

My GSX motorbike bike totes me with ease.

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Not all wheelies end well

My GSX motorbike bike totes me with ease.
This exactly. And if you're asking for advice on how to wheelie on an internet forum, then you probably shouldn't be doing them on the road.
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