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|06-20-2019 03:56 PM|
|Jorider61||I have a 16 and the throttle was snatchy I was going to have new soft ware put in my ECU and have it dyno tuned . It would have cost at least $ 1000, I wasn't happy. So I called Suzuki in Ca. and complained, I told them it was a safety issue. So they told me to go to my local dealer and they put a 2018 ECU in my bike and man what a difference. Not only was the snatchy feel gone but the bike has more power down low. Best part it didn't cost me a dime, the dealer told me it was a $1300 job|
|06-20-2019 03:39 PM|
Originally Posted by SuziL8 View Post
|06-20-2019 01:46 PM|
|gixxerjasen||Too bad you sold your 16, it was fixable. 18 should be fixable too, but if it's the TPS you'll have to go the more expensive route with acquiring the connector unless you can buy one as it can't be set with the dash anymore. My 16 had plenty of snatch but it's smooth now and I love it.|
|06-20-2019 08:24 AM|
|temporarykiwi||i beleive its the fuel cut that promotes the worst of the snatch, its easilly disabled with a reflash|
|06-20-2019 05:56 AM|
How much difference between '18 vs '16
I had a 16 and have an 18. Fueling is much better on the 18. Snatch is better but as stated above, its partly due to very responsive throttle on a litter bike and will always be present to some degree, but it can be improved/lessened.
The biggest improvement in snatch was after i upgraded suspension, specifically the front. The snatch essentially dissapeared
I had a throttle tamer and removed it after my ecu reflash. The tamer made the power much less linear after the flash....almost like it was fighting the new map
Snatch was not specifically addressed with new ecu in the 2018s....it was more the low speed fueling they focussed on.
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|06-20-2019 05:42 AM|
|BorderReiver||Hi Graham, I'm pleased you have had success following that route. I am following in your shoes in that I am now considering the 'Katana' throttle tube and other throttle adjustments before getting the ecu done. Thanks for the comment it has helped me make my mind up! Cheers, Steve.|
|06-19-2019 12:40 PM|
|FreedomPenguin||I do want to state, theres more benefits to flashing than just fixing the snatchy throttle, it runs smoother is a given, but theres some restrictions and retarding gearing and other small benefits. Even if you didn't want fueling adjusted, the other benefits are a nice factor like fuel cut disable. Not so abrupt stopping, while some here say they enjoy the hard stopping off acceleration, I believe the majority really enjoys/wanted it.|
|06-19-2019 12:04 PM|
So in order of what has been done to my bike, the dealer checked the TPS prior to delivering my 2nd hand bike as it's a known issue. Response still very strange, in other words unpredictable, due to slack in the cables so I adjusted as much slack out of throttle cable as I could and this improved it considerably.
Still not perfect so I went with the recommendation of the salesman at my local Suzuki dealers and ordered the throttle tube from the new Katana. This is actually the same part number as the throttle tube for the 2019 GSX-S so I would assume the 2019, and possibly later 2018 bikes already have this.
The upshot is that my bike is now significantly better than it was to the point that I don't feel the need to have the ECU flashed, it's not 100% perfect but a good 95%+ . The only issue left is the hunting on a constant throttle at low speeds due to mapping for emission purposes and isn't enough of an issue for me to worry about.
|06-18-2019 10:33 PM|
|wndotintman||Sounds like the 18 up are hit and miss. I have a 12 CB1000R for past 3-4 years and the throttle is silky smooth. I had the 16 Suzuki and CB at the same time to compare back to back. Still would like to try another one sometime.|
|06-18-2019 07:31 AM|
|BorderReiver||I have an 18 bike - got it in December. First ride was awful - in my view borderline dangerous! Adjusted OE suspension and it helped a little, replaced suspension with k-Tech forks and shock and spring - better, adjusted TPS to 1.13v as per youtube video a small i9mprovement again. it is now better at slower speeds but you can't get away from the fact that the throttle will always be very responsive - to the point where I try and just rest my hand on the throttle rather than hold it especially over very bumpy roads or at speed around corners in particular. I still plan to take the bike to Andy at Junction 33 to get the ECU reflashed. I spoke to him back in January and I believe he has a lot of experience with these bikes. On the UK Facebook page I have read of someone who has spoken to their local garage about fitting the Katana throttle workings to his bike as it seems to be fixed on that - someone did suggest that they have fitted what amounts to a throttle tamer to the Katana. I hope this helps - I can understand you getting rid of the bike - its frustrating tho coz in every other respect its bang on. Good luck.|
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