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So the OEM Dunlop rear hit the wear bars yesterday- almost exactly at 3K miles. I see Dunlop just announced the new Q3+ this past week or so, and Roadsmart 3 about a month ago. Both should be available in coming weeks IIRC. I think for current tires, Dunlop recommends the Q3 with Roadsmart 2 as an option on our bikes.


I like the idea of higher mileage of the Roadsmarts...and don't do track days. Also, probably better in the wet. But I do ride aggressively with the guys. I figure, for a weekend hamfist, more traction of the Q3+ is better to save my bacon.

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I figure, for a weekend hamfist, more traction of the Q3+ is better to save my bacon.
Sport touring tires actually provide better grip than sport tires in most conditions you're likely to encounter off the track. Unless you are riding really hard (like on the track) you are probably not keeping enough heat in the sport tires to get their maximum grip, and a sport touring tire is going to be better. It will also grip better in the rain.

Is there any reason you are only considering Dunlops? There are lots of other great tires (not that there's anything wrong with Dunlops).
 

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I have had very good experiences with Dunlops on my other bikes - though I run Pr3s then PR4s on one of them and have been very happy.
 

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Given the front is quite a firm compound tyre I'd go with the roadsmart....used the original Mk1 on a GSXR1k K7 and they were great in all conditions.
However if your mainly a fair weather rider and want grip over mileage...ditch the front Dunlop 214 and get a set of Q3 or similar...so long as you ride quick enough and have the climate to keep heat in them.
 

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Metzler M7RR's pretty good in the wet and excellent in the dry and pretty reasonable mileage for a sports tyre
 

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im on dunlop sport smarts but the m7rr is my next tyre
They are a bit more expensive than the Dunlops and I expect if you worked out pennies/mile the Dunlop would work out more economical ( Some geek will just wait and see, it might even be me:laugh:) but I'd rather pay a little extra and increase my chances of keeping it shiny side up;)
 

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Sport touring tires actually provide better grip than sport tires in most conditions you're likely to encounter off the track. Unless you are riding really hard (like on the track) you are probably not keeping enough heat in the sport tires to get their maximum grip, and a sport touring tire is going to be better. It will also grip better in the rain.

Is there any reason you are only considering Dunlops? There are lots of other great tires (not that there's anything wrong with Dunlops).
I have used the dunlop street and track biased tyres . The soft compound sport tyres lasted 900 /1000k's of track use , the street tyres lasted 3,000k's, no improvement in lap times , and most of my riding is at the track,so i just stick with the cheaper longer lasting tyres. Not much point in using track biased soft treaded tyres unless
1 all your riding is at the track
2 you are that good at the track you can improve your times
3 i have a riding buddy who uses ****ty chinese tyres on his ancient 500cc suzuki titan and he leaves me for dead on the twisties, why ? Because he is that good a rider !!
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I've picked up a nail on the OEM rear :(





it's to close to the shoulder to repair, I'm not sure if its worth it tbf as it's started squaring off at 2100 miles and most people on here reckon you're lucky to get more than 3k out of the rear... which I'm reasonably disappointed with. Although I'm no saint with regard to speed limits thats pretty poor mileage from a new tyre, my last bike (ninja) did 5k on the oem, my riding style is no different and this tyre didn't feel any stickier than that oem tyre. I replaced the tyre on the ninja with a Roadsmart 3 and did 5,000+ miles on that with no signs of wear before I traded it in, so I've gone with the same on the gsxs. It was more money than a qualifier 2 by £40 but the longevity should cancel that out... we'll see!
 

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I've picked up a nail on the OEM rear :(

it's to close to the shoulder to repair, I'm not sure if its worth it tbf as it's started squaring off at 2100 miles and most people on here reckon you're lucky to get more than 3k out of the rear... which I'm reasonably disappointed with. Although I'm no saint with regard to speed limits thats pretty poor mileage from a new tyre, my last bike (ninja) did 5k on the oem, my riding style is no different and this tyre didn't feel any stickier than that oem tyre. I replaced the tyre on the ninja with a Roadsmart 3 and did 5,000+ miles on that with no signs of wear before I traded it in, so I've gone with the same on the gsxs. It was more money than a qualifier 2 by £40 but the longevity should cancel that out... we'll see!
Same here with the puncture - was quite happy with the OE Dunlop tyres though. They were never going to last long, but were nice and grippy while they lasted - in the last days of summer. I was all set to use them up but picked up a puncture so will replace them now as winter is coming anyway.

Ordered a set of Dunlop Roadsmart III. The Ron Haslam race school use the Roadsmart III on their fleet of track and instructor bikes. Sure there will be some deal with them, but still if they are good enough for the Ron Haslam Race School then they are good enough for me.
 
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