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Dude, the mere thought of not riding for weeks gives me a case of hives! :eek:
The winters in Utah can leave the roads with snow, ice, water and/or salt for weeks at a time. Not to mention high temps in the 20s or 30sF.

I'm not man enough for that kind of adversity, nor do I want to subject my bike to it.
So... it remains in the shed for potentially weeks on end.
 

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Yep, I almost always switch out to lithium, in fact I just tried to put a Shorai from my recently sold KTM into the GSXS, but it was too tall to fit.
I used to use Ballistic Lithiums but it seems they went out of business. Now these new Shorais seem to be approximating the dimensions of the original battery ( but still the light weight ), whereas the Ballistics were smaller and would fit most any bike.
Anyway, easy way to lose 5+ pounds..
 

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The winters in Utah can leave the roads with snow, ice, water and/or salt for weeks at a time. Not to mention high temps in the 20s or 30sF.

I'm not man enough for that kind of adversity, nor do I want to subject my bike to it.
So... it remains in the shed for potentially weeks on end.
In Ottawa last winter, we got a few dumpings of 12 inches of snow, and more -40° days than I'd like to see in a lifetime!

No judgement from me lol. People struggle to drive cars well enough in the cold alone, no way I'd feel safe enough on the bike even if I was somehow man enough!

Anyways would a lithium hold up well enough over 4 months to not need a trickle charger or something? I usually pull them and leave them inside anyways, though my bike is in a heated garage.
 

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In Ottawa last winter, we got a few dumpings of 12 inches of snow, and more -40° days than I'd like to see in a lifetime!

No judgement from me lol. People struggle to drive cars well enough in the cold alone, no way I'd feel safe enough on the bike even if I was somehow man enough!

Anyways would a lithium hold up well enough over 4 months to not need a trickle charger or something? I usually pull them and leave them inside anyways, though my bike is in a heated garage.
I think it would be ok , especially if you are pulling it. I've left mine in the bike and connected for probably 2 months or so without any problems.
 

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I run Anti-Gravity Lithium batteries in both of my bikes. This past Winter started mid-October, and never really ended until early April. Bikes were stored in a heated garage (50 degrees) from roughly October 20th until mid-April. Both bikes fired right up as batteries held the charge. Both are also smaller and significantly lighter than OEM.
 

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I Google-fu for my own question, about how long they last, pulled from the bike, and shorai's own words "Holds unloaded charge for one year without maintenance".

So yes. Yes they will absolutely be good over winter with no charging, for anyone else wondering!
 

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Now I wish I had put a Shorai in my Super Tenere; the POS thing I got off Amazon is a joke. Pull it off the battery tender and it still sounds like it is barely going to get the bike started. I 'saved' money, but now I have a junk battery I don't trust. The Shorai sounds like the way to go in the future. And as @mike d pointed out in another post, between the new battery and a slip-on, he dropped 10lbs of weight from his GSX-S1000 which gets it to about 447 lbs - pretty good!
 

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been lucky i guess, id sit for 4 to 5 months straight for 3 years in a row winter months ,never starting and with no charge on it....no heat and she fires right up....never used a trickle
 

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@LEAVEITSTOCK, that is pretty lucky. If I'm reading correctly, a lead-acid type battery will self-discharge at a rate of about 5% per month, so after 4 months you are at 80% and after 5 months you are at 75%. Apparently still enough to crank over your bike, which is great. (The big pistons of the Super Tenere do NOT like to move, so it takes a lot of ooomph to get that bike going.)
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From this website: https://northeastbattery.com/battery-101-three-things-need-know-lead-acid-batteries/
Do lead acid batteries discharge when not in use?
All batteries experience some amount of self-discharge, yes. But, the rate of discharge for lead acid batteriesdepends on a few key factors.
**Temperature: The warmer the environment while a battery is in storage, the faster the rate of self-discharge. For example, a battery being stored at an average temperature of 80℉ will discharge at a rate of 4% per week. Whereas a lead acid battery being stored at 65℉ will only discharge at a rate of approximately 3% per month. **Length of Storage: The amount of time a battery spends in storagewill also lead to self-discharge. A lead acid battery left in storage at moderate temperatures has an estimated self-discharge rate of 5% per month. This rate increases as temperatures rise and as the risk of sulfation goes up.
 

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guys i need hep regarding the shorai battery, is it plug and play?? can i throw of the stock battery install shorai connect the two termials and ready to go... or do i need to do any mods on the charger on the bike? replies please
 
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