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About to order a GT+, have a couple of basic questions

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Hey all,

After much deliberation I'm pretty ready to order a '23 GT+ in that gorgeous Triton Blue. I haven't even seen one in person because they're unobtainium where I live, but apparently an order can get me one in a few months. I've watched dozens of YouTube reviews and related videos, researched a bunch and even spoke to Chris Moore. With all that, I have a few questions for you existing owners.

1. Every review complains about the weak brakes. Replacing pads is easy, so I assume that's a given. What about replacing the rubber lines with braided ones? Does anyone even make a kit for the GT? What about replacing the master cylinder with a radial one? I ask since I like good brakes and I also plan on getting aftermarket levers, so if I need to replace the master cylinder, I'd like to get that first so I don't have to buy two brake levers.

2. Is a service manual available for this bike? For example, I'd want to know how to properly bleed the brakes after a brake line replacement given the ABS system.

3. Is there a cross-reference anywhere, or a general overview, of what parts are compatible between the GSX-S1000 and the GT models? And what year(s)? It seems like the GT is not called out specifically on a lot of manufacturer's websites, but the base GSX-S1000 is.

4. Does anyone make an aftermarket air filter for the GT? Doesn't seem like it. It's weird that this bike seems to be so unsupported. Is it just too new still?

5. I'm going to want a full exhaust. Looks like M4 is an option but pretty loud, though the Q3 DB killer may help. I'd need to talk to Moore about the tune with that pipe and DB killer. Looks like Dominator out of Poland is another option (I'm Polish). Sounds like Lextek is coming out with a full system too, but I despise FB snobs. I'm also leaving out Brock's because they don't officially have a GT system AND I think they're all pretty loud. I like loud, but I want to have the option to make it less loud for longer trips (DB insert), or just go with a not-too-loud muffler to begin with. Am I missing any other options? I would love to see a full Yoshi system for this bike, that's the classic combo after all.

6. Some people say this bike vibrates a lot, others say it doesn't vibrate much at all. I'm a bit vibration sensitive in the feet, so is there a general consensus?

Thanks all, hopefully none of these will be a deal breaker. I already plan on replacing the tires right away, getting a tail tidy, probably a shorter windscreen (it's hot where I live), and maybe a better seat (if anyone makes one). I realize this is a "budget" bike but I fell in love with the looks and I've always wanted a high RPM inline four :)
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Quick question....so if you take the ABS pump fuse out, does it throw any codes and does the ECU accept that fact that the ABS pump in not working......How about a warning light on the dash....yes? No?
The ABS light will be on , but the bike functions fine , make sure its the ABS pump fuse not the motor fuse as the speedo will be disabled , it will not harm the bike in anyway so if you get it wrong it wont cause an issue - think its labelled
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Once again I'll say that I CHOSE the GT+ out of all the currently popular bikes out there. Why? Because it has the features, looks and yes, performance I wanted. I specifically wanted an inline four, I've had twins my whole life, I have a triple, I want a four. It wasn't about the money, nor was it about raw performance, it was about hitting that sweet spot of fun, longer distance riding.

Again, people are different, and I want that Suzuki banshee scream. I'm ripping out all the useless parts as soon as I secure a date for a dyno tune. Yeah, it'll be loud, but with an optional baffle, less so for longer trips. I always ride with earplugs anyway.
Nice place to be when you know what you want - I totally gambled on the GSXS as my £520 p/Month train ticket was really getting on my nerves - (never on time , 30% get cancelled & prices increase every bi-annualy while traintimes change monthly-worst value for money from any product in the UK) - So i went for it as the bike was bascially new for £8.5k

Engines solid so you'll easily be able to make it your own & utilise it well
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6. Some people say this bike vibrates a lot, others say it doesn't vibrate much at all. I'm a bit vibration sensitive in the feet, so is there a general consensus?
If you worry about the vibration on the pegs, DO NOT do the full system. Speaking of experience, the oem cat converter has 2 rubber mounts (where it's bolted to the frame) to damp the vibration, also the muffler is bolted on the right peg, rather than rear peg like most of the sports bikes do. I did the link pipe on my 2020 Katana and kept the oem muffler, sounded awesome but I could feel the vibration on the right peg constant, very annoying. And the exhaust ruined the smoothness of the bike, one of the regrets.
The factory exhaust sounds pretty awesome on the GSX-S1000, especially if you wanna tour on the GT, I probably susggest leave the exhaust, if you are vibration sensitive like me.
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Look what followed me home today... what a beauty.
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Look what followed me home today... what a beauty. View attachment 50985
Congratulations man....I told you it might be sooner rather than later.....glad you had a quick wait!
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Congratulations man....I told you it might be sooner rather than later.....glad you had a quick wait!
Yeah, that was much quicker than I thought, kinda put me in a bind because I didn't have time to sell one of my dirt bikes yet. But, she's home and I have a box full of Evotech parts ready to be installed.
So I wanted to follow up on my own thread, in case potential or new owners find it in the future.

I put just over 100 miles on my GT (mostly because it's been raining a ton down here the last few weeks), and I think I have a good feel for the bike now. So, to answer my own questions from the first post in this thread:

1. Brakes: the rear brake is good, the front brakes are... ok. They do feel a bit "wooden" as some say, but what it really is is a lack of initial bite and a not-too-aggressive feel. I think for a sports touring bike that is meant to be easy to ride in all weather conditions, that makes sense. I can live with them, but I'll likely upgrade the pads all around in the next few months. I'll eventually do braided lines, once some more options become available.

2. Service manual: you can order one directly from Suzuki here: Genuine Suzuki Manuals

3. Cross-reference with other models: there is a lot of cross-over with the 22/23 GSX-S1000, but I haven't found any easy to follow lists. It's a case by case basis, you can compare part numbers in the parts catalog.

4. Air filter: TBD. I'll edit this response once I talk with Moore Mafia.

5. Exhaust: TBD. I'll update this soon.

6. Vibrations: there are definitely vibrations, but they're not terrible. They're most noticeable to me in the ~5K RPM range, but they're pretty high frequency and don't make my hands or feet go numb. I actually kinda like it because I can feel the engine a bit and learn to understand what it's doing. The stock exhaust is so quiet that the wind noise in my helmet drowns it out, so feeling the engine isn't a bad thing.

Now random thoughts... overall I really like this bike. I installed a number of EvoTech parts on it already, so it looks good and I learned how to take most of the fairing apart. It comes off surprisingly easy (and in big pieces) considering how much plastic there is to take off.

The power is pretty nuts... I'm still in the break-in period so I'm not going crazy with it, but let's just say that at 5K RPM things start to happen really fast, and by 8K RPM you're thinking "there is no way this will keep pulling"... but it does. The power is super usable too, it's very tame when you want it, but it can also be aggressive. It's not v-twin torque, but it's still very meaty. I keep it in A mode, I don't see a reason not to, the other modes are fine, but honestly A mode isn't the least bit scary, it's just responsive, how I like it.

The LCD display is nice, I prefer it in dark mode at all times. My only complaint is the Suzuki phone app... it's complete garbage. As a result I can't use navigation on the LCD and have been using my phone. I'm considering a Garmin Zumo XT2, that may be a purchase once I get this bike uncorked and tuned.

A small thing that nobody mentions... the throttle is PERFECT. I'm very particular about throttle free play, I like it as minimal as possible, and this throttle has 0 free play, which I love.

I don't understand why Suzuki didn't coat the rider footpegs black, like they did all other controls on this bike. I'm going to get them powder coated black once fall is here, they just look out of place. Perhaps aftermarket footpegs are an option, but I'd want a set with rubber on top to help dampen some of the vibrations like the stock ones do.

I actually really like the mirrors. Some reviewers complained about them, but I like the field of view and that they hardly vibrate. The fact that they fold is also awesome because I have a lot of toys in my garage and space is limited.

The seat... is ok. I may look for an aftermarket one at some point, it's a little too slick and flat for me, but still works ok. The leg position is pretty sporty, but not terribly so. I can stand flat-footed at red lights and my crotch is completely off of the bike, so that's a nice way to stretch.

I got right-angle valves installed when I installed new tires, which is a must for this bike in my opinion. I went with Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart IV tires with a 55 aspect ratio rear and they have been really nice. Zero surprises on the road so far.

The windshield is ok. It doesn't really buffet my helmet, but it does throw the air right at my neck, so there is some exessive helmet noise. At least the air is clean and not turbulent. I'm going to look at some shorter shields as I would prefer the air on my chest in the summer, and maybe a longer one for the colder months.

So yeah... I'm happy with the bike, it was a good purchase.
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Well, I pulled the trigger on the full M4 system, as well as a Sprint filter and Brocks PAIR block-off plates. The ECU will be going over to Moore Mafia for a tune. It'll be probably around a month before it's all done as I'm waiting on all the parts still, but I'm excited.
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