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Hi all,


I've recently purchased a 2016 GSXS1000 F . used with less than 20,000 KM.
I am a Suzuki fan and always had been. I never owned other bikes.

I rode 2010 Vstrom 650 for 3.5 years , After that, about 1.5 year on 2017 SV 650 and last week I got me the GSXS1000F.


I must say I was a bit intimidated about this bike. After reading tons of review, Most of the complaints came to the throttle snatchy response .



I must say I don't feel any of what was reported as a complaint by other rider. Further more, I don't feel this bike is violent or super fast and torquey as described.



Having said that, I must state the I never switched the traction control to any other level and kept it always on mode 3 ( which is the most intrusive) .

Plus, I never went above 5000 rpm at any gear.


I feel the bike is great and smooth at any gear.



My point being... Is the traction control settings dull the throttle response or the engine some how?



I want to be sure before I switch it to mode 2 or 1 . Keep in mind that this is my first 4 cylinder bike and that it is a 1000 cc bike.


Thanks in advance
 

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I don't think it really limits the highest power output, but it definitely makes sure that there is no wheel spin, and that the front will never lifts. 3 is pretty much wet roads, 2 is normal driving, 1 is spirited (little bit of wheelie...) And off is off...

But 3 will limit the immediate output when you roll on quickly.

Also the bike really comes to new life over 6k rpm... The difference is night and day. Below 5k is a purring kitten, over the 6-7k all the way to 11k is a lion pissed off when you're trying to steal it's lunch馃ぃ
 

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welcome fella



lol, find a bit of empty road and gun it, then bring traction control down 3 2 1, probably best you don't turn it off, yet

good luck
The bike has plenty of grunt below 5000rom (when my gear linkage broke I drove 100km with lots of stopping and starting at traffic light and junctions, all in 6th gear) but its never going to feel fast below 5000rpm

On the stock bike there is also quite a big hole in the torque curve at around 5000rpm which makes it feel much slower at those rpm - once you hit 7000+ you will get a quite q shock it literally takes off.

Traction control does not affect the power unless the rear wheel starts to spin, but you may not be noticing that as TC3 is very sensitive and will cut the power at the slightest slip.

Also remember that the stock bike is restricted below 6000rpm and 30% throttle and that makes it feel much more placid and slow!

I flashed a guys bike recently, he had come from a CBR650 and was really dissapointed with the performance of his GSXS1000 - I set his suspension up, set his TPS correctly and then flashed his ECU - after a test ride he came back with a huge smile - Different bike.

However I'm sure once you get above 7K you will notice the power :D
 

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...I must state the I never switched the traction control to any other level and kept it always on mode 3 ( which is the most intrusive) .

Plus, I never went above 5000 rpm at any gear.

I feel the bike is great and smooth at any gear.

My point being... Is the traction control settings dull the throttle response or the engine some how?

I want to be sure before I switch it to mode 2 or 1 . Keep in mind that this is my first 4 cylinder bike and that it is a 1000 cc bike.

Thanks in advance
Traction control has no effect on throttle response under ordinary riding conditions. It's only when you're either starting to exceed the limits of rear wheel traction or lifting the front tire that the TC will make its presence known.
 

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I must say I don't feel any of what was reported as a complaint by other rider. Further more, I don't feel this bike is violent or super fast and torquey as described.
Plus, I never went above 5000 rpm at any gear.
As a previous owner of a V-Strom 650, I can tell you that the GSX-S1000F is a completely different bike and thrives on high revs. If you want to get a rush, hit 8-9K, or the rev limiter.

It's a beautiful thing. >:D

As quatro said. "gun it"! The bike loves the high revs and will reward you with violent, and super fast thrills and smiles. ;)
 

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hope u don't mind us all having a bit of a laugh about this mivrider, I have a few friends who ride fast bikes and are more then happy just taking it easy, sometimes think they will laugh last, think we are all interested as to how u get on
 

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From the Manual

<Mode 1>The sensitivity level of the tractioncontrol system is set low in this mode,so the traction control system allows acertain degree of wheel spin beforecontrolling engine power output.<Mode 2>The sensitivity level of the tractioncontrol system is set middle in thismode, so the traction control systemallows a lesser degree of wheel spinthan when set in Mode 1 before con-trolling engine power output.<Mode 3>The sensitivity level of the tractioncontrol system is set high in thismode, so the traction control systemallows a lesser degree of wheel spinthan when set in Mode 2 before con-trolling engine power output.

NOTICE reference to "controlling engine power"
More to the point, notice that in all cases where TC is engaged it "allows a [certain] degree of wheel spin before controlling engine power output". So (at least according to the Manual) engine power is not controlled by the TC until a certain degree of wheelspin is observed.
 

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Miv

You know how to ride. Turn off TC, find a nice long open stretch of highway with no cross streets, scoot back in the seat, lean down with you chest above the tank, and open that sucker up! This motor feels totally at home revving to 11,000 rpm. It is not a Big Twin with loads of low end torque. It is a Japanese Kamikaze screamer. It sounds like the motor is over working at 6,000 but it is just getting started!

I also highly recommend a $180 ECU flash from Dano's. It will give you more power, way less engine braking and smoother/better all around performance. Becomes a different bike.
 

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More to the point, notice that in all cases where TC is engaged it "allows a [certain] degree of wheel spin before controlling engine power output". So (at least according to the Manual) engine power is not controlled by the TC until a certain degree of wheelspin is observed.
That's because its a very basic system based on the relative speeds of the wheels and until one wheel is going faster than the other it can't do anything, Its a reactive system rather than a proactive system
 
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Well my two cents is that for all intents and purposes the traction control in this particular bike does limit power at least power delivery.. I typically ride without the traction control on and I can tell you that the bike absolutely behaves differently when you turn the traction control on especially when you put it into Setting 3 I have been Riding very fast bikes aggressively for almost 20 years and in my opinion when you turn the traction control off on this bike it is a wild f*#*ing animal you should try it I highly recommend it I鈥檓 sure you鈥檒l be able to scare yourself in no time
 

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Well my two cents is that for all intents and purposes the traction control in this particular bike does limit power at least power delivery.. I typically ride without the traction control on and I can tell you that the bike absolutely behaves differently when you turn the traction control on especially when you put it into Setting 3 I have been Riding very fast bikes aggressively for almost 20 years and in my opinion when you turn the traction control off on this bike it is a wild f*#*ing animal you should try it I highly recommend it I鈥檓 sure you鈥檒l be able to scare yourself in no time
You would think TC3 meant for rain conditions would definitely soften throttle response and lower power output, but according to the manual, the engine power is only cut once the tire breaks loose.

I don't know from experience as I have never ridden this bike with TC activated. Only dry conditions where I live (and I hate that pesky yellow light always on the dash)!
 

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I just wish the bike didn't come with traction control is there a fuse you can pull to disable instead of the dash light being on?
ABS brakes yes but what ever happened to just using your wrist for traction control.
I bought this bike because it has less electronics plus it's seat height is perfect for me @ 5'6" tall and it has the k5 k6 engine as I used to own
a k6 and I loved that engine&#55357;&#56833;
 

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I just wish the bike didn't come with traction control is there a fuse you can pull to disable instead of the dash light being on?
ABS brakes yes but what ever happened to just using your wrist for traction control.
I bought this bike because it has less electronics plus it's seat height is perfect for me @ 5'6" tall and it has the k5 k6 engine as I used to own
a k6 and I loved that engine锟斤拷
There is a fuse you can pull to remove the TC dash light but you will also lose the whole dash, horn, indicators and tail light ;)
 
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