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Hi there,

I am just about to pull the trigger on a new bike. I want to install Holeshot’s complete package but if I can’t get rid of the FI light it will make me crazy and will be a deal breaker. Richard at Dynojet said their O2 optimizer, part# 66391258 will solve this problem.

Has anyone had a similar set up and had success with the 2018-2019 models? I like Holeshot’s products and had great results with my Mk1 B12 and his products. Any feedback would be very much appreciated!
 

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I have used and still use Holeshot for a lot of product and advice. To the best of my knowledge, the only way way to kill the FI light with this setup on the 2018 & 2019 is to flash the ECU shutting off the O2 Sensor. Check out Dano's (ECU Flashing) for mail in flashing services - many here have used him. This is not an issue on the 2016 & 2017 models.
 

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Hi there,

I am just about to pull the trigger on a new bike. I want to install Holeshot’s complete package but if I can’t get rid of the FI light it will make me crazy and will be a deal breaker. Richard at Dynojet said their O2 optimizer, part# 66391258 will solve this problem.

Has anyone had a similar set up and had success with the 2018-2019 models? I like Holeshot’s products and had great results with my Mk1 B12 and his products. Any feedback would be very much appreciated!
The package comes complete with the 02 eliminator which will fix the error. Unless i'm missing something it shouldn't matter that its a 2019. All years produce an error if the
02 sensor is removed. Your options then are to install an 02 eliminator eg. Healtech servo eliminator, or via an ECU flash. Both are effective.
 

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In my last conversation Dale at Holeshot, the O2 eliminator does not turn off the FI on the '18 & '19.

Need the flash to turn off the O2.
 

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In my last conversation Dale at Holeshot, the O2 eliminator does not turn off the FI on the '18 & '19.

Need the flash to turn off the O2.
If you need the flash it kind of nullifies the Holeshot route, unless there is something I am missing?
 

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If you need the flash it kind of nullifies the Holeshot route, unless there is something I am missing?

Some people like the tune / map Holeshot has (me being one), others like the map Dano has, other like PC5, etc... When you flash with Dano you elect what to include or exclude. You can exclude Dano's map and just turn off O2, PAIR, RPM limiter, etc... All depends on what mods you have made and what you desire.
 

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In my last conversation Dale at Holeshot, the O2 eliminator does not turn off the FI on the '18 & '19.

Need the flash to turn off the O2.
That's strange. Dale lists and utilises the Healtech servo eliminator. If you go to healtechs website it shows the servo eliminator for all years including 2019. Sounds like miscommunication or Dale wasn't aware they updated the product tables to include later year models.
 

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Do not confuse the Servo eliminator (for Exhaust Valve Actuator) with the O2 eliminator (for O2 sensor).



If you pull out / unplug the O2 sensor, you get the FI light. The O2 eliminator worked great on the '16 & '17. If you recall, in 2018 Suzuki re-programmed the ECU to help with the throttle snatch, and then in '19 added their version of a Throttle Tamer. As of last fall, the O2 eliminator did not disable the FI indicator on the '18 & '19 re-programmed ECU for whatever reason. It is certainly possible the O2 eliminator has been updated in the past 5 or 6 months to correct this.
 

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Do not confuse the Servo eliminator (for Exhaust Valve Actuator) with the O2 eliminator (for O2 sensor).



If you pull out / unplug the O2 sensor, you get the FI light. The O2 eliminator worked great on the '16 & '17. If you recall, in 2018 Suzuki re-programmed the ECU to help with the throttle snatch, and then in '19 added their version of a Throttle Tamer. As of last fall, the O2 eliminator did not disable the FI indicator on the '18 & '19 re-programmed ECU for whatever reason. It is certainly possible the O2 eliminator has been updated in the past 5 or 6 months to correct this.
I was looking for the eliminator plugs over the weekend and none provide enough information to guarantee it would work with 2018 and 2019 models. Maybe someone who has done it can confirm.
 

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Just a quick update... I have Holeshot's full tune on board now with the stock O2 sensor plugged in to the Arrow headers. I've ridden about 1,500km now and there have been no problems whatsoever.
 

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So I have a 2016. Currently installing arrow headers, pc5, Auto tune, healtech servo eliminator, pair valve delete, & healtech pair system eliminator. Do I need anything else to ensure no warning lights? Im Worried about leaving the factory o2 plug unplugged. Is an o2 eliminator or optimizer also needed? New to the forum here and still haven't stumbled upon a definitive answer. Thanks!
 

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So I have a 2016. Currently installing arrow headers, pc5, Auto tune, healtech servo eliminator, pair valve delete, & healtech pair system eliminator. Do I need anything else to ensure no warning lights? Im Worried about leaving the factory o2 plug unplugged. Is an o2 eliminator or optimizer also needed? New to the forum here and still haven't stumbled upon a definitive answer. Thanks!
PC5 comes with o2 eliminator, on the 2016 bike it's just a resistor. The 2018+ bikes now have an O2 simulator which is a box of tricks to fool the ECU which was what everyone in this thread didn't have available when the discussion happened earlier this year:

 

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I figured as much. Thanks for confirming. Unfortunately the one that came in my kit does not fit. Reached out to power commander and was told that they can't sell me another one due to emissions regulations. FML...looking for suggestion short of having to reflash computer
 

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I have just fitted my pcv from my 15 to my new 19, i did it all exactly the same, including unpluging the 02 sensor and replacing it with the eliminator plug.
5 minutes down the rad and the f1 light came on, c44 error for the 02!
I guess this is why the '18 &'19 PCV are £20 more expensive.
OK, going to get it turned off this weekend with a flash.
 
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