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When are you guys doing your first oil change? I don't know if I should wait until the 600 mile service or do one earlier. Just wondering what you guys think. Thanks
I read on other motorcycle forums that it's good to change oil after about 100 miles due to the new parts breaking in and leaving metal shavings in oil. This is the first brand new bike I've ever had and just want to make sure I do things right.What would be the reason to change it early?
If a $35 oil change is all I have to risk for potentially improved engine, transmission, and clutch life, it seems like a no brainer to me. Just blows me away that people worry about $35 on an $11,000 machine.Never changed the oil earlier that the manufacturers break in period, but it certainly isn't going to do any harm (except for your wallet maybe)![]()
Makes sense... Also heard a long time ago the factory put in really crap oil as they do with the hydroponic fluid..!!..This is the part of the article i posted that made the most sense to me....
Q: What's the third most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Not changing the oil soon enough after the engine is first run !!
Change Your Oil Right Away !!
The best thing you can do for your engine is to change your oil and filter after the first 20 miles. Most of the wearing in process happens immediately, creating a lot of metal in the oil. Plus, the amount of leftover machining chips and other crud left behind in the manufacturing process is simply amazing !! You want to flush that stuff out before it gets recycled and embedded in the transmission gears, and oil pump etc...
Why would they do that? I'm pretty sure they don't want to have to fix the engines under warranty.Makes sense... Also heard a long time ago the factory put in really crap oil as they do with the hydroponic fluid..!!..![]()
I mean brake fluid doh... cheapo oil only has to last 600 miles...Why would they do that? I'm pretty sure they don't want to have to fix the engines under warranty.
Um 'hydroponic fluid' ? I dont think so.
I'd like to see the data that leads to this 'league table of engine problems'Q: What's the third most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Not changing the oil soon enough after the engine is first run !!
No doubt about that. The fact is Suz or the dealer have to put a JASO-MA spec oil in when new, which rest assured means it's an oil that meets the specifications, which means it will hold up well to the rigors of riding for the length of recommended oil change intervals.I'd like to see the data that leads to this 'league table of engine problems'
As mattnz says, it's not in any bike manufacturers interest to set themselves up for warranty claims as they cost money and reputation. The way it comes out of the factory is the way it should be according to their maintenance schedule.
I know the stresses are different, but consider that my last three cars have had their first oil change at ~20k miles and covered over 300k miles between them without issue, I'm sure I wouldn't have seen any benefit in changing any of the fluids before the manufacturers recommendation. I remember when my cars used to be in every other month for a 6000 mile oil change
I'm not saying that changing the oil early is a bad thing, but sweeping statements like the above are meaningless to me unless backed up up defendable data.
On the CB forum, peeps were forever asking if they could remove the cat and change the exhaust without fitting a PCV and you always had the same old response 'if you don't fit a PCV you'll damage the engine'. Truth is, there were many owners that did this without fitting a PCV without problems and no one could cite any real life examples of damage caused by fitting a straight through system.