Warren, you are the first to respond that you geared up like I will do, 41 tooth rear! So please, inquisitive minds here want to know .... how do you like that setup? Is 1st too tall now? When you cruise at 70 on the highway, what did your revs drop to? Please more info/review. ThanksI wanted to gear up, not down. Slow the motor a little on longer straight roads.
First I installed a rear sprocket with 3 less teeth. This worked but made the wheel base a little long. With the axel that far back the adjustment numbers on the swing arm are covered up, which makes chain adjustments difficult.
So I put the stock rear sprocket back on and went with a 18 tooth counter shaft sprocket and this seems to be the best set up.
I would like to go taller in the gearing as the motor is very capable, but will leave it as is because low gear is to tall.
Hope this helps.
you're talking about a Speed Triple, I'm talking about the GSXS. Apples to ApplesAfter switching to the Triple I can see the OP desire to "nuter" the gearing a bit (now he has changed his mine though)
With TC=ON, riding mode=Road, the 1st gear is almost "useless".
As soon as the bike hits [email protected] the TC-warning light blinks like a strobe light, and it feels like "Gods hand" is trying to stop the bike from acceleration.
Not nice at all
This repeats on 2nd from 7k.
With TC=Off, no more than 25% throttle is necessary to loft the front wheel from anywhere over 3k.
Yes, it is a "hooligans" bike, but this is ridicoulous.
Triumph increased the rpm limit from 9.5k to 11.2k and *reduced* the gearing from 18/43 to 17/44.
I think this bike will accelerate better with 18/43 as it will handle WOT without trying to loop in 1st and 2nd.
That is entirely unacceptable! Of course I have tried like crazy, sit way back get into the power band in 2nd, let off slightly, crank it open full throttle and yank on the bars and only maybe a foot off the ground. Can gearing remedy this? What gearing do you have? (sorry if I missed it earlier)You do need to either clutch up or bounce (shut throttle, yank throttle) to get the front up. Otherwise she just dances the front.
Any level of TC (1-3) will stop wheelies.I just realized today my TC is on 1, but I doubt that would affect doing a wheelie.
I'm stock and not much for wheelies, yet. When they happen it's like Christmas. I've never had it lift up just on power and I'm happy to use the power.
I agree Rapido. I have only had the bike for 3 weeks so still "acclimating". But I constantly find myself clicking up for the 7th gear that isn't there...lol I have been riding like most for 20+ year and came off of a Hayabusa so the gearing was the polar opposite. But even just cruising around town or heading to the beach to meet friends today. I can't believe when I look down at 70mph and I am at 5k rpm and it seems like I am in 3rd gear or something...It's nice to have a "big bore" that doesn't require 3 downshifts but rather you can just roll on to pass on the highway. But I think the motor would like some taller gearing. It feels like there is plenty of "grunt" to make it work! Seems like she is really "revving just to do the posted speed limit on most roads and highways and I look at and bought this bike so I would and could ride it for longer periods of time on longer rides! I didn't want another sport bike I am at that age where I wanted their power but not the discomfort. So this was (and is) my happy medium. But even on the ride home from the dealer I tried multiple time to upshift when already in 6th!Is there anybody else out there that thinks the stock gearing is too short like I do?
All I read about here is people going even lower with smaller front sprocket AND bigger rear sprocket. What are you guys doing, drag racing off the line all the time in town?
I just ordered a 41 rear sprocket. For me the stock gearing is way too short, I find myself searching for another “7th gear” all the time on the highway, and 1st gear seems too short as well. Am I missing something?
OK, apples to apples 0These bikes and bikes in general are designed to stay down to the ground even on wot. They are racing bikes, I don’t do power wheelies because it’s dangerous (I respect those who do whatever they want) a clutch up is the same every single time, it takes such little effort and it’s instant lift of wheel at any speed incentive you learn.
A power wheelie, doesn’t bring the wheel up fast enough, on almost any bike. You may feel like you’re really high but actuality prob only have the wheel a foot or two, and you’re gaining speed very fast chasing the balance point. The clutch flicks it up efficiently without speed increase.
Power wheelie=long time to get wheel up at balance if you even can without being a ridiculous speed. And it’s not as predictable.
Clutch up- flick of throttle and clutch muscle memory it comes up the same at any and every speed once you learn. I used to power on older bikes but quickly went to clutch and will never go back to power. Just not safe. I’d recommend anyone who is wanting real balance point wheelies to switch over. I just use 1 finger and pull clutch in just enough to get into friction zone, instantly pulling throttle cracked up, and we aren’t talking bouncing rev limiter. I prob only go to 7-10k when I release clutch and I hold firm, whole sequence is prob Half a second in duration. the bike just comes up. I then use throttle and brake control to do what I want and such.
Bike comes up so much easier than my gsxr 750 too. extra torque is quite nice. once I ride with someone with a camera or GoPro I’ll get a new pic w gsxs1000. But here’s how I wheelie.
Me cruising at 65mph. I used to do sit downs but stand ups are more comfortable for duration wheelies and at balance point, leaning over to see around the fairings since can’t see over front was annoying
I just YouTuber videos, this looks like a great video. I personally don’t use the brake to squat the front down, but his demonstration is excellent of that clutch use and sound. Really is so comfortable in comparison. To a power.
Do not attempt changing gears unless you ace the wheelie movement fully. I don’t do it often, but I’ve switched from 2nd to 3rd a few tones. Not for faint of heart and it’s dangerous to a newbie. Clurchless shift at same time as keeping the balance and letting off throttle to let the clutchless shift is a pain. No real need to do it since your bike enough power to go up or down in speed