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Just wanted to say hello all from Chicagoland, USA. I've been riding since 2011, my previous bikes being a GSXR600 and 400SM, and having taken a hiatus for the past few years due to becoming a family man. Well, time is nearing to get back on the saddle and I'm currently looking at a few different bikes in order to make that happen.

I love canyon carving and definitely am looking to do some more track days. However, the bulk of its use will be for commuting (60-70% I'm guessing), approximately 30 miles or so daily.

For my budget, I've decided on a short list with the GSXS1000 topping it (blacked out Z would be ideal, though I'm looking at a 16/17 leftover for the savings). On paper at least, the GSXS seems to offer the most bang for the buck compared to other bikes in its class/price range. A snatchy throttle seems to be the only major drawback (to me at least), but thankfully the TPS thread seems to remedy that issue. Other minor areas of concern are the lack of steering damper (I nearly shat my pants when I got some crazy head shake after hitting a pothole while doing 70 mph on a congested freeway), along with its heavier weight compared to my lighter former bikes (supermoto handling is amazing, freeway capability not so much).

Being a cornering junky, I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on a GSXS because I already know a supersport will get the job done in the twisties and track (and do it well) but I have no idea how well the GSXS would fare. And so, I'm also considering a 16/17 GSXR750 with the only drawback being the riding position, which I hate to admit seems to be a major priority these days (mid 30's). Getting old sucks!

Outliers I'm not so much considering as I'm dreaming are the FZ10 (beastly crossplane transformer but what ****ty fuel economy) and 17 R6 (is there a better reasonably priced, bang for the buck, track tool?). I say I want to get back into cornering but it all may be a pipe dream due to the wife and baby. Just F it and get a Indian Scout Bobber? I'd consider them all just over my budget at this point but thought I'd mention them for mindset insight and ****s and giggles.

Anyhow, that's my story. Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Ride safe!
 

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Hi and welcome,

I moved from a GSXR 750 K8 to the GSXS in 2015. It was the best move I could have made. Loved my GSXR but the GSXS is by far the more practical bike with just as much fun and excitement.

I find it handles after a few minor adjustments very well and is easily capable of coping with my skill level. I will replace suspension and brake parts as and when they wear out.

Great on the twisties and a pleasure to live with. Go for it.
 

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In my opinion the only way a supermoto style (gsxr) will outperform a gsxs will be because of rider skill....though a gsxr may be more capable on a track, i seldom come across riders that can take advantage of the difference. The advantage offered by the premium parts on the gsxr are only realized by the top 5-10% riders. Otherwise it mostly eye candy.
An argument can be made for the "feel"of the premium parts, better dampening or better shifting maybe but those things can be customized to rider specs.....and thats actually an advantage in my eyes. I didnt pay extra for something that was going to be revalved and resprung anyways.

A huge advantage of the gsxs for commuters is the gearing.....gsxr is geared for track and makes you work for that power advantage. The gsxs just has power all over rpm range.....for street riding the gsxs wins hands down.

Seeting position is personal but even in my 20s i hated hugging the tank.

Setting taste aside, ive always looked at the gsxr line like an Ariel Atom...yeah its street legal (barely), but its technically a purpose built track machine that dies a little every day its not on track.


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I'm in the city, and I think the GSXS is great for riding in this area. It holds it's own on twisty roads, but sadly there aren't many around here. You'll appreciate the more upright riding position on the 200 highway miles getting to and from the good roads. On the street, the GSXS only lacks some top end compared to a supersport. Unless you're riding over 120, or dragging knee on the street, you'll be better off on the GSXS.

I haven't taken my GSXS to the track, but I don't think I would like it. I have an R6 that I race, and I would certainly have to dial it back if I rode my GSXS on the track. Depending on your skill level, you may be able to pull off double duty.

As for budget, I don't know if you priced out local dealers. I bought my bike in June and I was seeing $8500 out the door for non-abs and $9000 OTD for ABS (naked model).
 

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Thanks for the replies.

I find it handles after a few minor adjustments very well and is easily capable of coping with my skill level. I will replace suspension and brake parts as and when they wear out.
Anything besides the rear shock and rubber brake lines?

though a gsxr may be more capable on a track, i seldom come across riders that can take advantage of the difference
I'm slower B pace so I definitely fit into that category.

I haven't taken my GSXS to the track, but I don't think I would like it. I have an R6 that I race, and I would certainly have to dial it back if I rode my GSXS on the track. Depending on your skill level, you may be able to pull off double duty.

As for budget, I don't know if you priced out local dealers. I bought my bike in June and I was seeing $8500 out the door for non-abs and $9000 OTD for ABS (naked model).
Anything specific about the GSXS on the track that you think you wouldn't like?

I haven't priced out dealers yet, probably will do so in the coming months. Your pricing is about what I have in mind though.
 

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Anything specific about the GSXS on the track that you think you wouldn't like?

I haven't priced out dealers yet, probably will do so in the coming months. Your pricing is about what I have in mind though.
I don't know for sure, but the brakes, suspension, and ground clearance don't seem like they would be up to the task as is. I ride in the middle of the advanced group. It's arguably not a fair comparison. I'm used to riding a dedicated track R6 with upgraded suspension and brakes. I think I would have to dial my pace back on the GSXS.

If you're a slower B pace, you'll probably be able to stay in the limits and have fun on it at the track.
 

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I don't do track, but if you take the track out of the mix, the GSX-S100F is the most versatile bike I've ever owned. Commuting, suburban and urban errands, weekend canyon runs, long highway stretches. I just does it all very well.
See if you can get a test ride, then decide.
 

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I don't do track, but if you take the track out of the mix, the GSX-S100F is the most versatile bike I've ever owned. Commuting, suburban and urban errands, weekend canyon runs, long highway stretches. I just does it all very well.
See if you can get a test ride, then decide.
Side profile of the F looks outstanding. Front not so much. I'm not a fan of the added weight of the F but I am concerned about the naked's comfort through the wind during higher speeds. Also, because they are so **** ugly I'd hope to get a better deal on an F. :p Or maybe a windscreen on a naked would be sufficient?
 

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Side profile of the F looks outstanding. Front not so much. I'm not a fan of the added weight of the F but I am concerned about the naked's comfort through the wind during higher speeds. Also, because they are so **** ugly I'd hope to get a better deal on an F. :p Or maybe a windscreen on a naked would be sufficient?
You don't see the front of the F when you're riding, but I'll bet you feel the wind on the naked ;)

Edit: also, the weights not that serious, especially on this bike, it's not a pure track/racing bike. However the extra down force from the fairing is great. I haven't ridden a naked GSXS but I've ridden other nakeds, and I love the stability of a faired sport bike at speed.
 

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Side profile of the F looks outstanding. Front not so much. I'm not a fan of the added weight of the F but I am concerned about the naked's comfort through the wind during higher speeds. Also, because they are so **** ugly I'd hope to get a better deal on an F. :p Or maybe a windscreen on a naked would be sufficient?
I think the F adds some down force to the front end at speed which may add some stability. Not sure... but in theory...
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I finally joined the GSXS family 1.5 years after my original post with my 2018 GSXS1000Z. 🙂

It's been almost a decade since I last rode anything. I made sure to practice in an empty lot nearby before I left the dealership during traffic hour. I'm glad I did because I almost dropped it when I stalled while practicing turning from a stop.

Day 1 impressions:

The throttle response is instant. I wouldn't call it a snatchy throttle (although I can see how someone else might), but it definitely requires a delicate touch.

The clutch pull is pretty **** heavy. Hopefully I can reposition it to a more comfortable position. I can see this getting tiring.

The riding position makes me feel like a sail. I'm finding myself forgetting to grip the tank which makes my arms lock up tiring them out. I feel like clip ons at least had me bending my elbows so that my arms wouldn't be tense. Maybe a windscreen would help but it's definitely like learning to ride all over again.

This bike feels light. Maybe it's the upright riding position but I don't recall my GSXR600 feeling this light.

And finally, the power. Holy smokes. I'm a little scared. I feel like I need to convince my wife to get a Grom "for her." XD

Here we go...
 

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Got a chance to take it out again. This time I felt far more comfortable like the old days with the help of two changes. The first was that I gave it more throttle when easing out the clutch at a stop which gave me more confidence at takeoffs. The second was that I leaned my body position forward a bit which made my arms nice and relaxed.

On a side note, I'm not sure if it's because it was a very windy day but the wind buffeting at speeds above 65 mph is crazy. I feel like I'm going to fly off at times. Kind of wish I had gone with the F model but hopefully the Powerbronze windscreen i ordered will help once installed.
 

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Wind buffeting is real on the naked. I didn't reinstall my mra screen after pulling the heated grips recently, forgot how much it knocked me around. Like the look though
 

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I put a Puig screen on my naked and it made a big difference in comfort, more than I thought it would. It takes the pressure off your chest.

I don't really think about wind blast much anymore, but I rarely go on the interstate. I ride mostly country roads between 40-80 mph, wind blast is not an issue. I do however like to twist the throttle far on a straight back country rode and usually see about 130 mph. The only thing on my mind at that speed is how stupid strong this engine is above 8K and i better back off and start braking for the left hander rapidly approaching haha :)
 

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I decided to return the Powerbronze 270mm. Although it looks nicer than I thought it would, I feel like I'd be happier with the taller MRA touring screen because I want to be comfortable, **** it.
 
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