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First of all, I didn't realize you had to be a contortionist to get to the filter on the "F" model. My arm and my face will never be the same.:eek:

Here's the story....I bought this bike with 1500 miles and the previous owner changed his own oil but didn't tighten up the filter adequately. It was super loose! There is no doubt that if I had not noticed those few drops of oil on my garage floor, I would have lost my engine. It was so loose it jiggled when I touched it.

Thankfully I caught it in time with the oil level still between the L and F.

He had a Fram filter on it...maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyway, it's done and I feel better knowing everything is good!
 

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First of all, I didn't realize you had to be a contortionist to get to the filter on the "F" model. My arm and my face will never be the same.:eek:

Here's the story....I bought this bike with 1500 miles and the previous owner changed his own oil but didn't tighten up the filter adequately. It was super loose! There is no doubt that if I had not noticed those few drops of oil on my garage floor, I would have lost my engine. It was so loose it jiggled when I touched it.

Thankfully I caught it in time with the oil level still between the L and F.

He had a Fram filter on it...maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyway, it's done and I feel better knowing everything is good!
Tip: Always use a filter with a 17mm nut on the top (same size as oil bolt). HiFlo Filtro 138RC, or K&N KN-138 (made by HiFlo). It will make oil changes much easier.
 

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Well, cleaned and lubed my chain the other day, and adjusted the throttle cable. Also, set my suspension back to factory specs. The previous owner had tightened everything up a bit.

I will say that the different suspension settings along with the throttle adjustment seems to have helped the throttle issue a good bit. I do have the PCV installed.


Then today, got the new shoes put on. So far so good! (Picture is of the chain work, not the new tires)
 

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Yeah, that first one is a doozy, especially when the filters you're used to changing are right out in the open. It appears that when using the filter with the nut, one doesn't have to remove, disconnect, unhook, pry apart, unbolt, or break any fairings for the next oil change.

I've never had a filter loosen on any bike or car, and I don't go gorilla on them. It must have been barely tight when installed. Good timing on catching it; your next ride wouldn't have had a happy ending.
 

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I've never had a filter loosen but have spoken to some that have. One even reported loosing one on an interstate. Some time ago, I implemented a technique on my street bikes that I had used on my race bikes per the organization's rules and enforced by tech inspection; the old hose clamp and safety wire trick. Tighten filter, put hose clamp around it. Run safety wire through worm screw and attach opposite end to fixed point on motor. Tighten everything. If that filter even thinks about loosening, the clamp/safety wire will keep it from coming off. Here's the filter on the RSV4. Not the best through the lower but you get the idea...

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actually, its no big deal to not have a nut at all. Since your not going to reuse the filter and likely dispose of it after removal, just stab it with a screw driver from the side and turn. Thats how I got the one that came from the factory off
 

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actually, its no big deal to not have a nut at all. Since your not going to reuse the filter and likely dispose of it after removal, just stab it with a screw driver from the side and turn. Thats how I got the one that came from the factory off
The nut is 10X easier than trying to get your hand in there even if it's just to stab it with a screwdriver.
A short extension and a socket and you go right between the pipes from the front. Try it. You will want the nut version in the future.
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actually, its no big deal to not have a nut at all. Since your not going to reuse the filter and likely dispose of it after removal, just stab it with a screw driver from the side and turn. Thats how I got the one that came from the factory off
The nut is 10X easier than trying to get your hand in there even if it's just to stab it with a screwdriver.
A short extension and a socket and you go right between the pipes from the front. Try it. You will want the nut version in the future.
If the hex nut filter isnt available why not just get the cap filter wrench that grabs onto the filter and does the same job....many parts places sell them along with the filter.... for all the extra cost I stick with Genuine Suzuki filters.
 

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The nut is 10X easier than trying to get your hand in there even if it's just to stab it with a screwdriver.
A short extension and a socket and you go right between the pipes from the front. Try it. You will want the nut version in the future.
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I'm not saying dont buy the nut version.... with the bike does not come with that one and I don't think the op has that one either.


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If the hex nut filter isnt available why not just get the cap filter wrench that grabs onto the filter and does the same job....many parts places sell them along with the filter.... for all the extra cost I stick with Genuine Suzuki filters.
The factory installed filter on mine was too tight for a cap wrench. It just rounded the edges of the filter (and I used the correct size).
Once the factory filter is off, yes the cap wrench would work, but the convenience of the filters with the nut welded on is very nice.
 

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FYI GUYS: KN-138 W/ 17mm nut is only $3.98 on amazon. With free shipping on $25 or over! STOCK UP NOW! This is usually a $10-15 filter. I just ordered enough to meet $25 free shipping requirement.
 

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If the hex nut filter isnt available why not just get the cap filter wrench that grabs onto the filter and does the same job....many parts places sell them along with the filter.... for all the extra cost I stick with Genuine Suzuki filters.


Part FM101 from Fram is the exact fit. Works wonders. I was using it on my honda cb500x and luckly it's the prefect fit for the gsx. You can the use regula hi-flo filters..

Got it at Canadian tire for 6-8$ a while back...

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FYI GUYS: KN-138 W/ 17mm nut is only $3.98 on amazon. With free shipping on $25 or over! STOCK UP NOW! This is usually a $10-15 filter. I just ordered enough to meet $25 free shipping requirement.
Thanks TheDude! Just picked up some myself. :)
 

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You guys that say stab it, or use a cap wrench, strap wrench, whatever, must have the naked. If you've got the F, you want the nut so you don't have to remove those damned fairings. I know, you CAN use a cap wrench on the F without removing fairings, but it is quite awkward.
 

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Yeah... about K&N...
I don't want to be the dousche here but here's some info that came up on another forum. I didn't want to be silent about it as everyone on here seems to be very interested in doing the best they can for their bikes and should know what others have experienced. Will it be a problem for any of you? Who knows? All I'm doing is passing on something I read.

Oil Filter Issues
 

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Yeah... about K&N...
I don't want to be the dousche here but here's some info that came up on another forum. I didn't want to be silent about it as everyone on here seems to be very interested in doing the best they can for their bikes and should know what others have experienced. Will it be a problem for any of you? Who knows? All I'm doing is passing on something I read.

Oil Filter Issues
Hopefully that was just a temporary manufacturing defect on a run, since it was three years ago. I've pretty much used K&N exclusively for a number of years and never had a problem. Of course, this doesn't mean others won't.
 

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Yeah... about K&N...
I don't want to be the dousche here but here's some info that came up on another forum. I didn't want to be silent about it as everyone on here seems to be very interested in doing the best they can for their bikes and should know what others have experienced. Will it be a problem for any of you? Who knows? All I'm doing is passing on something I read.

Oil Filter Issues
That's not good... I already ordered. :( I'll check the K&Ns against the HiFlo's I have on hand and see how they compare. I'll post my findings if there is anything of interest.
 
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