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That was nerve racking to watch, I was expecting every car to turn out in front of you. Good thing you got video proof it wasn't your fault and you weren't hooning around. Hopefully filtering is legal where you live.
 

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A good example of why I do not filter ,call me a ***** but I like my legs intact, yeah I could still crash but this just adds to the risk especially in the conditions, yes it was the car is in the wrong but I bet he did look and saw the gap between the two cars next to him not expecting a bike to come through the traffic , I'm sorry for what happened to you and wish you a speedy recovery though
 

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I've been taken out lane splitting before. I still do it 40+ minutes a day on my hour long commute to work. I'm so used to this exact scene daily. Why ABS is a must.

Hope you're not too bruised. Cheers to a new bike
 

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Glad you're OK mate. The advice I got from my IAM observers was to filter slowly and expect every gap to be filled by the car in the next lane. In my opinion, 30mph was fine for those conditions and assessing the gap in lane 3 I was looking for the silver Prius to move over not the Golf! I know it's not the same as being there, but that took me by surprise even knowing that one of them was going to change lanes. I don't think filling the gap in lane 3 yourself would have made much difference either as the Golf would have moved over and would have been so close to the blue Corsa that you probably wouldn't have had anywhere to go anyway. :(
 

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Horrible thing to see-I dont know if it is a good idea to give this to the ins company if the car driver has already admitted liability.

My thoughts?- You were going a little too quick- For me, if you cant stop in time, (and it was plain that cars do look for gaps, just like the one it went for), then slow down. The M25 is home to the worst car drivers I have seen. Every day there is some kind of rear end shunt, at the very least.

Good on you for putting this video on here pal, it just goes to show that this can happen to anyone. A crash at 30mph still hurts, both physically and financially.

Compared to some of the suicidal high speed filtering you see on youtube this is nothing, but look at the damage a low speed spill can have, you would never think it.
 

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That sucks....Hope the low speed means low damage bill.
Similar almost happened to me last night
The issue is that when people are in nearly stand still traffic....They love to pull out.....and since they are trying to get out of slow moving traffic, they usually do it in a quick, unexpected way in order to make the little gap in cars they want to get into.

Whenever I see a line of cars in traffic.....I become hyper aware of what those cars are doing...I always expect an idiot to not see me and brake out of the line of cars at full throttle.(In apparent frustration I imagine) Happens so often Im almost disappointed when it doesn't Most of the time I put an additional lane between me and the line of cars
 

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Thanks for the kind words, everyone. FYI filtering is definitely legal here. :)

Woke up this morning with a slightly stiff neck and shoulder, but nothing at all serious.

Insurance company coming to pick up the bike soon - will see what they say about it and let you know.

Have already sent the video to insurance company. Quite a few people have said I was possibly going too quick. I don't know. I think it looks faster on video. God knows I've filtered faster than that before - we'll just have to see if 30mph feels "too fast" next time I'm in a similar situation.

The advice of moving into gaps and being hyper aware that a car might take a gap at any moment is solid - this is something I'll definitely learn from. Hopefully others will too ! There was no advantage whatsoever for car to change lanes, so I expect that contributed to me making bad assumptions about what the cars might do.

Personally I don't think pulling out suddenly like that without any indicator is defensible so I'm optimistic that I have a strong case. He also seemed very sincere about accepting liability - will see if his insurer thinks otherwise, but he was a good guy.

Also just made a little pocket money selling the video to a media company, so that softens the blow a bit. :)

Thanks again - you guys are much nicer than the rest of the internet ! Will post an update if/when it gets back on the road.

Cheers,
 

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Ouch!
Glad you're ok Bob. Filtering is always very subjective. I've been knocked off myself before now and you do learn a few techniques from experience for survival. ;)
Next time you might think "is this too fast?" or "can any of those cars changes lanes". I always think if there is a gap for a car to pull over they probably will. It's boring and frustrating in a car and it always feels like the other lane is moving faster than yours, hence, watchout!
Anyway, good luck with the repair and on the bright side. You have probably finished what would have been a long and boring discussion in another post: We now know what the F stands for F-CK-d;)
 

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I am fine with filtering at slow speeds but even at 30 mph you just don't have enough time to react as shown here (most of the time anyway). IMO it's not reasonable or prudent - for me at least - to do something like that. In the end the traffic was moving slow enough to safely filter but you were going too fast.

Like someone else said, this was hard to watch and I eventually just had to skip ahead to the crash, people do that kind of stuff all the time even at 60+ MPH so
 

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Not sure where you live but here in California most of the time situations like this both parties are found at fault so basically own insurance will take care of it and rates go up :(

hey at least youre still alive to bitch about it
 

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Personally I don't think pulling out suddenly like that without any indicator is defensible so I'm optimistic that I have a strong case. He also seemed very sincere about accepting liability - will see if his insurer thinks otherwise, but he was a good guy.
Um, I can absolutely see his indicator. I didn't see it the first time, but even at full speed I can see it on the replay. I'm pretty confident this is just a case of too much differential speed between filtering bike and cars. You closed the gap between not being able to see his indicator, to too late to do anything about it in the time between one indicator flash and the next.
 

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Um, I can absolutely see his indicator. I didn't see it the first time, but even at full speed I can see it on the replay. I'm pretty confident this is just a case of too much differential speed between filtering bike and cars. You closed the gap between not being able to see his indicator, to too late to do anything about it in the time between one indicator flash and the next.
I don't think that's his signal, I think that's the bike's headlight hitting the reflector of the taillight making it look like an signal. There's absolutely no signal used before he tried to change lanes. You would see the signal on the quarter panel by the front tire if there was a signal turned on (as seen in the damage photos).

I've watched it numerous times and not once seen a signal flash.
 

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Thanks for your reply, but I'm afraid you're mistaken. This was dissected by the meanies on reddit but, as mentioned in the post below, there's no indicator on the front of the car. The indicator would have been a very noticeable bright yellow had it been on. The guy definitely didn't indicate.

That doesn't mean I was riding perfectly :)
 

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Glad you're ok. Filtering here is legal (with restrictions) but people still think they own the roads and try and block the bikes etc.

Don't let a collision stop you getting back on the bike! :D
 

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Glad you are OK. I hate to see you damaged your pretty bike!

But... I am so sorry to say it, but I have to... I don't care if it's legal or not wherever you are, I think splitting lanes is stupid. It gives bad reputation to riders in general, is dangerous, and bikers who don't do it are just put in the same "bucket" by car drivers. From my perspective, in this situation, you are also at fault to start with..

I hate to say this in this thread, but that's my little contribution to the internet world trying to make the streets a safer place.

Peace, drive safe... and survive!!
 

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Hi, all. Sorry to resurrect such an old thread but insurance etc. is finally all resolved. There was no dispute of fault but the 3rd party had policy complications which made it drag on for a long time. Without going into too much detail, it basically ended up as:

* I had to make a comprehensive claim on my policy due to 3rd party's insurance issues
* Payout covered cost of the bike less approx. £2000 which I had to stump out of my own pocket
* 3rd party's insurer refunded my excess of £600
* My insurer ultimately decided not to penalise me so I retained my No Claims Discount (was VERY stressed about this for months)

So if you take the £1400 I paid to settle the finance deal (£2000 - £600 repaid excess), then the £1200 or so I paid in deposit + monthly payments, we're looking at roughly two and a half grand for the privilege of riding a brand new GSXS for three months.

Then again, what a great three months it was. :)

I've decided not to buy new ever again and picked up a 2008 Triumph Sprint ST (obligatory photo attached) which I'm absolutely loving. Have wanted this bike for a long time so really pleased to finally own one.

I miss the GSXS dearly, especially since the girlfriend got a V-Strom - so many little reminders of shared components that bring back the memories.

I really hope to pick one up second hand in years to come as it's an absolutely stonking bike. So this is definitely au revoir and not good bye. ;-)

All the best - enjoy your GSXSes, and hopefully I'll have another one to show you in the next few years.
 

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Cheers Bob,
gad you got it all sorted in the end. I was very seriously contemplating an ST before I saw the Suzi.
Very tidy machine
Enjoy the new ride and Au revoir :laugh:
 
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