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A local dealer has a new 2018 F Model at my dealer. $10,675 OTD (taxes not included). Does that sound like a good price? There is also a leftover 2016 (blk/red) for $8850 OTD (taxes not included). I'm leaning towards the 2018 due to the updates and shouldn't have the snatch problem.

By the way, the 2018 is updated for the U.S. model. It now has the same engine update, slipper clutch and cosmetic updates that the overseas models got last year... up about 7-10 horsepower, slipper clutch, black levers and foot controls, tinted windscreen.

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That's not an "Out The Door" price.
That may be true in your state or maybe it's just your opinion. In Oklahoma you pay the taxes when you register and license the bike.

Plus it gets you "out the door" with the bike and all of the dealer's part is done. If you want it registered for street riding, THEN you pay for tax and license. Works out well if you're buying an off-road bike or race bike, doesn't require licensing or registration.

What is the OFFICIAL definition for "out the door" ????
 

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That may be true in your state or maybe it's just your opinion. In Oklahoma you pay the taxes when you register and license the bike.

Plus it gets you "out the door" with the bike and all of the dealer's part is done. If you want it registered for street riding, THEN you pay for tax and license. Works out well if you're buying an off-road bike or race bike, doesn't require licensing or registration.

What is the OFFICIAL definition for "out the door" ????
Ah, my apologies. I've only ever encountered the situation where dealer files all the state paperwork, fills out a temp tag, and you get a plate in the mail; never need to go into the state offices till re-registration next year.

By the way, does the dealer collect sales tax? Or is that included in the use tax, registration fees?
 

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A local dealer has a new 2018 F Model at my dealer. $10,675 OTD (taxes not included). Does that sound like a good price? There is also a leftover 2016 (blk/red) for $8850 OTD (taxes not included). I'm leaning towards the 2018 due to the updates and shouldn't have the snatch problem.

By the way, the 2018 is updated for the U.S. model. It now has the same engine update, slipper clutch and cosmetic updates that the overseas models got last year... up about 7-10 horsepower, slipper clutch, black levers and foot controls, tinted windscreen.

Thanks!
Tough call, but I think it depends on how important saving 1800 bucks it to you. If I were pinching pennies to get a fantastic bike, I'd go for the 2016. If money was no issue, I'd get the 2018. If money is kind of an issue, then factor in color, and which one you like the best. It's your money and your choice, but it sounds like you are leaning towards the 2018, I probably would too, but I don't think you can go wrong either way. Go for it!
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Ah, my apologies. I've only ever encountered the situation where dealer files all the state paperwork, fills out a temp tag, and you get a plate in the mail; never need to go into the state offices till re-registration next year.

By the way, does the dealer collect sales tax? Or is that included in the use tax, registration fees?
No apology necessary, things are different in different states.

Dealer does not collect taxes on the bike, it is calculated and paid when registering/licensing for a title.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I am going to check out the 2016 in person tomorrow and the dealer will allow test ride. The dealer with the 2018 does not allow test rides. I do like the 2018 updates, but the price difference and the fact I like the black/red 2016 color the best I may be bringing it home with me. I think I may be able to negotiate in some other incentives like some parts and accessories at or near cost if nothing else.

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I think the 7-10hp is just a paper amount. My opinion, the 2016 model is underrated in the figures of HP. I think the 2018 model has may 2HP more, but now the rate is true.
 

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I have to vent a little bit ...

I was on my way to test ride and probably bring home the 2016... then the dealer called and said I was approved for 7.99% at $8710 or 1.99% at $9710. WTF???? The ONLY price we talked about was $8710 AND the interest shown on Suzuki's website which is 1.99 for 36 months. My credit is top tier so this didn't make sense. Checked Suzuki's website again... same offers for either bike, no rebates or "customer cash" on GSXS's but dealer with the 2016 is saying there is $1000 rebate on 2016 model OR low financing, not both. I'm calling B.S.! Why would I pay $9710 for a 2016 model when the 2018 is only $800 more at the same interest rate? I think the dealer is either trying their tricks or maybe (big maybe) their information just isn't right. I'm calling Suzuki on Monday to get this figured out.

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I think the 7-10hp is just a paper amount. My opinion, the 2016 model is underrated in the figures of HP. I think the 2018 model has may 2HP more, but now the rate is true.
Could be. The claim when they updated the Euro models last year was an increase from 140hp to 150hp. I know a lot of bikes have dyon'ed at over 140 stock for a '16 model but others at around 137-138. I couldn't find any '16 vs '17 dyno comparisons for the Euro models so maybe it is only 2hp or so but I wouldn't think they would claim 10 and only really have 2 or so... I'm thinking maybe 6-9.
 

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I was offered 3 options to finance 0% for 36, 2.99% for 48 or 3.99% for 60 with no money down for my '16 in April. BUT... These comparos on price differ so much on where you live and inventory and probably a hundred other things.
 

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A local dealer has a new 2018 F Model at my dealer. $10,675 OTD (taxes not included).
Before taxes that is not that a great price. Go for the 2016, however your dealership sounds like typical thieving pricks.

OK may be different but the rest of world considers OTD to include taxes and title. It doesn't literally mean the price to get the bike physically out of the actual dealer's building.
 

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Can't go wrong with either. I love my '16 but wouldn't mind an '18 either.

Stromer, the dealers here in OK always consider OTD to be only what is owed to them which does not include tax and title.


Let us know what you end up with.
 

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A local dealer has a new 2018 F Model at my dealer. $10,675 OTD (taxes not included). Does that sound like a good price? There is also a leftover 2016 (blk/red) for $8850 OTD (taxes not included). I'm leaning towards the 2018 due to the updates and shouldn't have the snatch problem.

By the way, the 2018 is updated for the U.S. model. It now has the same engine update, slipper clutch and cosmetic updates that the overseas models got last year... up about 7-10 horsepower, slipper clutch, black levers and foot controls, tinted windscreen.

Thanks!
Got my 2016 at Action Powersports in Tulsa for $8500 "OTD" last winter. Standard (non-F) w/ ABS. I think you can do better especially on a 2016 leftover. I would just go after the 2018 and whittle them down. Get quotes on the FZ-10 as well and try to leverage them. I wouldn't pay more than 9500 for a faired 2018. If that fails just play the winter waiting game unless you plan on doing a lot of riding for the amount of season we still have left.
 

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I don't put much stock in reported OTD pricing. While it seems pretty straightforward on the surface, there are many different definitions of OTD, and tax, title and licensing can be very different depending on location. In one case an OTD price reported was after a trade-in and only mentioned after the low price was questioned. Shop around, and then make the best deal on what you can afford that makes you happy.
 
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