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One year after riding in "b" mode, I finally tried "a" mode!

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Well, I wish I hadn't waited so long! I just assumed it was gonna be like my FZ10, so I left it in "b" and though it felt fine. There is a definite difference in how much quicker the power comes on when you twist on it! I rode it fairly aggressively yesterday down local curvy roads and never had an issue other than getting used to the power coming on much stronger and quicker. I can only imagine how it would be with a full exhaust, air filter, and tune!
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I can only imagine how it would be with a full exhaust, air filter, and tune!
The same?
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Yeah I just switched to A myself, to get used to it. Power definitely comes on quick! lol... then I tried C again, very mild- then back to B which is a nice compromise but A is where its at :cool:
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I have 2016. No choices on power delivery. Original Gangster mode by default. 🦇
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I went through all the modes as I was breaking it in. Kept it in C until 800km, B until 1600km. Then I put it in an A. after I hit 2000km, I did a pull to just below Redline, all gears and my God, That Rush is addicting. 🤫
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I went through all the modes as I was breaking it in. Kept it in C until 800km, B until 1600km. Then I put it in an A. after I hit 2000km, I did a pull to just below Redline, all gears and my God, That Rush is addicting. 🤫
yup i also havd 16f, no power modes and the "anti-fun" control is prrmanently offn
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I find myself putting my uncles z900 when I ride it into its most sporty mode. So, I will probably be doing the same once I get my GSX S. Not until its fully broken in though.
I went through all the modes as I was breaking it in. Kept it in C until 800km, B until 1600km. Then I put it in an A. after I hit 2000km, I did a pull to just below Redline, all gears and my God, That Rush is addicting. 🤫
Don't know if Canada has the same ECU restrictions as the USA, but if you do and haven't had your ECU derestricted that rush you felt in the upper RPM was actually quite diluted. There is WAY more pull on top that is restricted from the factory!
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The same?
It's a completely different animal after these mods and flash. Top end power is increased about 20 whp, but the best part is a more prodigious and flat power curve throughout the rev range. Not to mention it hits 160 like nothing
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Madrussian, what’s your set up?
It's a completely different animal after these mods and flash. Top end power is increased about 20 whp, but the best part is a more prodigious and flat power curve throughout the rev range. Not to mention it hits 160 like nothing
There's a fair number of horror stories after CPU's get sent off for a reflash. This is just one of several GSXS's that got sent off...


Is it worth invalidating one's warranty (and post-warranty reliability) for 20 measly HP's? I think not if the cost of a reflash and full exhaust system is the cost of a GSXS1000 + $2000, as $15,000 to $17,000 puts you in a 200+ HP hyper sport motorcycle like the BMW S1000R/M, or Suzuki's own GSXR. The motorcycle manufacturers are full of stock 1000cc that are fairly cheap that make 40 more HP's than a modified GSXS1000.
Listen debby downer....talk to anyone that tunes bikes/ knows what they are talking about.
The restrictions put on the ecu's from the factory negate everything that these bikes are supposed to be.
I understand if you are worried about warranty stuff, but, me, I got mine secondhand, have none. & want my bike to run as a 1000cc bike should. Unrestricted, loud & a lil scary.
of course anyone could by an "R" bike, that it also EXTREMELY restricted from the factory & want to do the same thing to those.
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Listen debby downer....talk to anyone that tunes bikes/ knows what they are talking about.
The restrictions put on the ecu's from the factory negate everything that these bikes are supposed to be.
I understand if you are worried about warranty stuff, but, me, I got mine secondhand, have none. & want my bike to run as a 1000cc bike should. Unrestricted, loud & a lil scary.
of course anyone could by an "R" bike, that it also EXTREMELY restricted from the factory & want to do the same thing to those.
Riding a bike is more of a system than the actual motorcycle hardware. And that system encompasses riding at full throttle in all the gears most of the time. If you buy a liter bike of any sort, then you owe it to yourself to be using peak HP at 6th gear for fairly decent amounts of time, and not on just highway entrances for 2 seconds.

So, should you do a trackday while avoiding spending money on mods? Or spend money on mods while not doing trackdays? I think those who do trackdays, or race, quite frequently, can then decide to do mods later on if they feel their bike is lacking. But those who haven't ever tracked their liter bike but do lots of mods that they can't use are just...pansy poseurs. I would assume (or hope) than anyone who buys these types of bikes would be 100% buying them to trackday on first and foremost although not necessarily frequently. Otherwise it's like the guy who buys DOT racing tires but has huge chicken strips; he's already nowhere using the capabilities of the bike while insisting he's exceeding the capabilities of the bike.
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You live in Central Florida, right?

Just do this trackday. Home

It's, what, $215? That'll get you way faster and way safer than any sort of mod.
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I think everyone here is old enough to know the consequences of doing mods to their bike & quite capable of making their own informed decisions.

You sound like a woman.....there
I said it.
You sound like the bitchy GF that debby down's everything fun.
'That's too loud'
'That adds no value to your bike'

😂 Flashing an ecu & putting exhaust on a bike is, once again, taking all the BS restrictions off, that OE's put on to pass emissions.
dropping 10-20lbs
& making bikes what they should be.
Emissions that "hurt" the planet come from big oil/industry in general.

& I agree there are a LOT of ppl who buy bikes they have NO business having.
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You live in Central Florida, right?

Just do this trackday. Home

It's, what, $215? That'll get you way faster and way safer than any sort of mod.
Was actually this past weekend talking with my wife about just that.
Has been so long since I've been. Hard to make the time with work lately.
But, but, but, modding your bike is half the fun! If you come from a mechanical background you would know!
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I think everyone here is old enough to know the consequences of doing mods to their bike & quite capable of making their own informed decisions.

You sound like a woman.....there
I said it.
You sound like the bitchy GF that debby down's everything fun.
'That's too loud'
'That adds no value to your bike'

😂 Flashing an ecu & putting exhaust on a bike is, once again, taking all the BS restrictions off, that OE's put on to pass emissions.
dropping 10-20lbs
& making bikes what they should be.
Emissions that "hurt" the planet come from big oil/industry in general.

& I agree there are a LOT of ppl who buy bikes they have NO business having.
haha...yup you called it reliamax, couldnt agree more, only event i do is a local hillclimb , its great fun, but its once a year, nz still has some great roads with few mobile tax collecters, so plenty of opportunity to give the bike a good thrashing, i have wanted to go on a track day just to see if its as good as ive been told, yet i keep hearing horror stories of talentless riders taking out other riders , but im sure it is good fun
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You sound like a woman.....there
I said it.
You sound like a slow and unskilled rider that has no business being on a 145 HP machine.

Pansy Poseur is the perfect name for you. The rider who hangs out with gigantic chicken strips.

Seems like we both have opinions.
But, but, but, modding your bike is half the fun! If you come from a mechanical background you would know!
Sure it is, but on sportbikes ridden on the street? Sportbikes have the highest of all crash and death rates, and it's mostly because unskilled riders buy them, mod them to go even faster, and then inappropriately mix up public roads as racetracks.

Buying a 150 hp sportbike, then "unlocking" their true potential by a bunch of expensive mods that riders don't necessarily have the skill of performing correctly, then riding said motorcycle on public streets at really high speeds with minimal training results in, well, the situation we now have. Sportbikes riders crash to an astonishing degree, and most sportbike riders wear inadequate gear.

I do think the Pennsylvania model of training motorcyclists is the best. It consists of free and frequent trackdays for beginner riders, and cheap and subsidized trackdays outside of major urban areas for the more experienced riders. And Pennsylvania has a much lower death rate.

Like I said before, it's a system. Get the rider up to speed before the mods.
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