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I own 3 bikes, kinda. I own a 2013 gsxr 750, 2005 Harley sportster 883, and a 2016 puma 125. my friend recently purchased a 2017 z900 and he loves it. This is my first time being around a naked styled bike and I love it. I was looking at the new 18 gsxs1000's blue/black combo and have some questions.

How would it be compared to my 13 750? I worry that if I buy it, I wont like it as much as my 750, or I will like it more than my 750 and wont ride one of the two. I use the highway everyday to get to the cities, but I ride a mix of city and highway. do they have windscreens for the 18s? Are they just enjoyable/comfortable in comparison to the 13 750 gsxr?

I have my 13 modded out with ecu flash etc, and it is butter smooth and fast, 12k effort free miles even tracked days. I will post a few pics for heck of it, if you had an 2013 gsxr 750, would you buy a 18 gsxs1000 I guess is what it comes down too?

I called local dealers and those son of a guns are telling me like 12-13k OTD prices on these bikes, its ridiculous. I will definitely be waiting for a leftover bike in winter or spring next year regardless.

Opinions/thoughts/things I should consider. I sold the 2007 gsxr 600, because I never rode it (since I have the 2013 gsxr 750) I worry about either never riding the gsxs 1000 or gsxr 750 if I owned both. That is why I want your opinions on owning both bikes or just waiting in general or passing.

What prices should I be aiming for for a 2018 black/blue abs model? Thats what I want, dont want the other colors honestly. Never had a bike with abs either so I'd opt for it. Is the gsxs 750 worth looking at or no?
 

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I had a heavily modified 2006 GSX-R750 for six months of great riding weather and put 300 miles on it. I was always on my FJR because it was better for the street. I had my GSX-S1000 now for four months of which we've had all kinds of terrible weather and I've had an impossibly busy schedule that almost didn't have me riding at all the entire month of March. I'm about to turn over 1000 miles on the GSX-S1000. I love this bike for the street, it's absolutely fantastic.

Depending on how you want to use it you might also consider the F model. Much better for touring and stuff but I do love my naked. My naked is for fun only, but if I didn't have the FJR the F model might be the bike to fill both roles.

Personally, I'd look for a leftover as there are still plenty of them out there. I picked up my 2016 in January for $8K and some of the F models have actually been going for much less. Not enough difference in the model years to justify the $4K difference you are seeing really. I would NOT pay a premium for a current model year bike. I don't see your location but you quoted in dollars, and naked bikes just aren't as popular in the US and they hang out in the dealer longer, you should be able to find some 2016 or 2017 models that dealers are anxious to get rid of.

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Same deal here, I traded my 4th gsxr750 in last summer on a leftover gsxs1000 and got otd for 7500.00 plus fees so about 8100.00 usd. I loved all my gsxrs, smooth handling low seat height (I'm 5'8) tons of aftermarket goodies. Inmho the gsxr 750 is the perfect street super sport. Plenty of power and same insurance as a 600. At almost 50 years old though I had only put about 300 miles on my 06 in the previous 2 years mostly due to the riding position causing me back and neck pain. It just took the fun out of riding after about 30 minutes and especially in when stuck in slow traffic. Got my gsxs last July and just turned over 3100 miles yesterday. Gobs of power ,abs,tc, close to super sport handling, and ride all day comfortable. The only downside to the naked is the high speed wind buffeting. I do plan on getting a small screen to reduce this a bit but I can't speak highly enough about this bike for getting back in the saddle and loving riding.
 

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Same deal here, I traded my 4th gsxr750 in last summer on a leftover gsxs1000 and got otd for 7500.00 plus fees so about 8100.00 usd. I loved all my gsxrs, smooth handling low seat height (I'm 5'8) tons of aftermarket goodies. Inmho the gsxr 750 is the perfect street super sport. Plenty of power and same insurance as a 600. At almost 50 years old though I had only put about 300 miles on my 06 in the previous 2 years mostly due to the riding position causing me back and neck pain. It just took the fun out of riding after about 30 minutes and especially in when stuck in slow traffic. Got my gsxs last July and just turned over 3100 miles yesterday. Gobs of power ,abs,tc, close to super sport handling, and ride all day comfortable. The only downside to the naked is the high speed wind buffeting. I do plan on getting a small screen to reduce this a bit but I can't speak highly enough about this bike for getting back in the saddle and loving riding.


You nailed my 100% concern is the highway buffeting. I literally live 30 seconds from highway, I hop on and do 10-15mins to any and all cities then its city. I dont take Harley on highway much due to no windshield, my gsxr 750 is so comfortable thru it. I dont know how well a windscreen will help, I am very interested to find out for speeds around 70mph.

Also, do they make an integrated tail light lens that fits in the stock location? I want turn signals, I will remove that whale tail. Theres an 1k rebate currently dropping price from 10.7 to 9.7 and my friend says he has a friend who's a dealer can possibly knock another grand down. whether or not its talk im interested in learning these concerns beforehand. Honestly my 750 is awesome, I just really like the way the gsxs' look lol.


I do dig this Puig windscreen, I have a Puig on my gsxr currently.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-naked-new-generation-windscreen-suzuki-gsxs-1000-2016
 

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Your garage if fantastic. I doubt 15 minutes at 70 mph will make you regret getting a naked, but I've never had a supersport to know the difference.
 

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My understanding is that the small windscreens help I don't have any problems around 70mph it's when I hit 90mph + that it's a problem and just a little lean forward helps a lot. I think that the small puig and leaning in a bit will negate most of the issue at higher speeds. But you will never get a naked to cut the wind like full faired bike. As for around town this things a blast and easy to lane split with. If you lane split stay away from the bar end mirrors the bars fairly wide so making it wider is probably not for the best. I am honestly so happy I've left this bike almost stock. I did a tail tidy that's about it the exhaust is good enought for me after years of two brothers drone in my ear I'm glad it's quieter.
I used the vagabond fender eliminator it uses stock or aftermarket signals and tag light and bolts up with a nice fit.
 

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Scooby, that color scheme on your gixxer is hot. I wish mine had the black tank so I could wrap my blue panels yellow.

As for the wind buffeting, here's my personal thoughts.

1. I do get an odd helmet vibration on windy days when the wind is blowing from a particular direction. Haven't nailed it down but it's very annoying.
2. I live right next to the highway, and Dallas is all highways so you are almost always on them no matter what. I have a 50 mph one way commute to work and it's not a big deal.
3. The wind blast reminds you to slow the **** down. Really, you feel like you are going faster than you are. It's kind of a good thing when it comes to speeding tickets.
4. I don't have any noticeable effects from the wind on my naked with no extra screen until I hit about 80mph. After that it's very noticeable. Ease up to 90 and you need to be tucked.
5. There's a solution to #4 above. Go 100-110 for a few minutes and slow down to 90. It'll feel like you are going 60. :D
6. Several windscreen options available. I've found they are all pretty ugly or too big or too much money (Yoshimura, I'm looking at you here) and I really haven't found the wind to be that troublesome. Worst case, get the F model and it'll be like having your GSX-R750 with extra power and comfortable seating.
 

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I have a 2016 naked GSXS and the Puig windscreen works great. I don't even think about wind blast anymore. I also found that the stock fork preload setting is too stiff for my 170 pounds and is what makes the naked models front end feel too "lively". Reducing preload to the fourth line has made the front end super stable and gives tons of feedback. I have rebound at 5 and compression at 6. Feels plush but controlled except for square edged bumps, which still feel a bit harsh....but way better than the factory set up.
 

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I wont lie, I have no interest in an F bike. I have an fairing bike that to me, surpass the 1000f in almost all catagories as a sport bike with fairings. I am just interested in an naked bike for aesthetic reasoning, and would be highway hopping lol. I like the F bikes, but theres no way id ever pay 10-12k for a bike that I basically already have ya know? around towner is what I was interested in more so that looks cool with some highway hops. I dont ride long distances, never have been able to ride more than an hour on any bike. No hooniganing on the 1000, that is my 750's purpose.

Any rumors of a revamp/update on the 19 models at all anywhere? I dont know much about the gsxs1000 community. I read theres an 750 update coming in 19 though. Interested to see that, but I wont buy it.

Edit, one question. Are there any aftermarket seats that are a little lower than stock in height? I sat on it, and I was not quite tippy toeing but was close, my gsxr 750 was the same way but I actually took the seat leather off and shaved it down and now its good. I wont lower a bike. The Z900 must sit lower, because I can almost flat foot both feet on my friends. Was hoping the gsxs1000 was similar but seems a tad taller by an inch or two.
 

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I just purchased a new 2017 GsX-S1000 for $8,900 OTD, I thought that was a pretty good deal. Was it?


Dude, I'd buy one for 8900 OTD but the 18s people have at above msrp in my area. its bogus. And none of them have the blue one, all of the dealers have "black" so I cant even see one in person which is disappointing. Maybe in winter time someone will have a black and I can pick a leftover in spring.

To give an idea of pricing here, theres an 15 gsxs 750 that is on the floor as 3 year leftover and they want 8500 for that.
 

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I won't lie when it gets twisty I still miss my gsxr but my back and neck dont. I was flat footed on my 06 and am on the balls of my feet on the gsxs but I won't lower a bike either. My wife's r6 is even higher and more painful than your gsxr. As for new seats I've found the factory pretty comfy and all the aftermarket so far actually raises the seat height an inch or so. As for the wind I've found tucking in to be pretty good and it's more comfortable than tucking in on a supersport. And yeah your right the yellow and black gsxr is one of the best looking my 04 was also yellow and black.
 

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Same deal here, I traded my 4th gsxr750 in last summer on a leftover gsxs1000 and got otd for 7500.00 plus fees so about 8100.00 usd. I loved all my gsxrs, smooth handling low seat height (I'm 5'8) tons of aftermarket goodies. Inmho the gsxr 750 is the perfect street super sport. Plenty of power and same insurance as a 600. At almost 50 years old though I had only put about 300 miles on my 06 in the previous 2 years mostly due to the riding position causing me back and neck pain. It just took the fun out of riding after about 30 minutes and especially in when stuck in slow traffic. Got my gsxs last July and just turned over 3100 miles yesterday. Gobs of power ,abs,tc, close to super sport handling, and ride all day comfortable. The only downside to the naked is the high speed wind buffeting. I do plan on getting a small screen to reduce this a bit but I can't speak highly enough about this bike for getting back in the saddle and loving riding.
MRA race shield Scooby....you be taking 200 mile highway rides and wanting more....it will be the best mod you ever done to a biker
 

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I wont lie, I have no interest in an F bike. I have an fairing bike that to me, surpass the 1000f in almost all catagories as a sport bike with fairings. I am just interested in an naked bike for aesthetic reasoning, and would be highway hopping lol. I like the F bikes, but theres no way id ever pay 10-12k for a bike that I basically already have ya know?
No way I'd pay those prices. The naked looks cooler so it seems the F models languish on the showroom floor. There's been several members who've picked the F model up for less than the naked models, and I'm talking in the low 8's OTD.

For your usage, the naked would do you well I think, especially since you don't do any kind of long rides. Less than an hour, you'd be perfectly fine.

The great thing about this bike though is how well it does staying off the highway. Last weekend I went out with some friends and we spent all morning and into the afternoon blasting around East Texas and only touched the highway for the last mile to my neighborhood. Hit the highway out of town and then get off the highway and explore. Exploring, carving, commuting, hooning, it does it all.

MRA race shield Scooby....you be taking 200 mile highway rides and wanting more....it will be the best mod you ever done to a biker
Did you just recommend modding a bike? :D
 

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gixxerjasen; Did you just recommend modding a bike? :D[/QUOTE said:
yes i did :eek:...i love highway riding also love the nakeds,,,the difference is amazing no wing buffeting sound and body is relaxed at highway speeds,,,and the looks of the MRA fits like a factory ....theres also a touring fo the naked same look and shape....had many nakeds that i tryed fly screens or race screens and took them off after the first ride....theres a member on the forum that gained 10 mph on the track with the MRA race screen
 

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Yea, the MRA would be on the list. I think the Yosh looks better, but at such a cost. And both of them are a little too tall for me. I started shopping all the screens right away when I got the bike, but I've gotten used to it and the desire has gone away. I'd actually like to score a deal on the Suzuki screen because I think it looks good whether or not it's functional.
 

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Id be perfectly content paying 9k otd for blue/black gsxs 1000. Is a gsxs 750 even worth looking at? I dont want one, but I really enjoy my 750. Is there still the snatchy throttle on the 18 models? I was reading a bit and it seems Suzuki changed the ecm's and fixed the issues? I dont really know what I was reading. I'd probably have danos performance do a flash and take off the restrictions. I did it to my 750 and it made it so smooth and run so much better. I am not a power commander type of guy.

I really like the Puig screen, that MRA screen looks sick too. I'd like to see more photos of bikes with the different color screens. Most likely I will end up waiting til middle of winter because I will not pay these absurd prices. I actually like the stock exhaust, wish it was black like 1000z model, and wish the forks weren't gold but whatever.


the 1000z I read has a different start than the other 1000s? is this true? like a push start with no clutch needed. If not, are there ANY differences from the 1000 and the 1000z other than color?
 
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