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Hi people. I've just fitted some EBC HH pads to the front - just to see if it improves the initial bite of the OEM brakes. Will give feedback next weekend after I've bedded them in.

Now what was interesting was that I ordered a matching set for the rear - these were listed as FA436HH. Two things - first they don't fit, the backing plate is a different shape. But secondly I noticed that the rear calliper is a Nissin unit not Brembo.

Interested if this is standard (and I've not noticed before - so please don't bombard me with posts to say this has been noted many times before etc) with other people's bikes.

I'm not concerned, the rear brake is not that important, and I accept that it has the more basic Brembos up front, but thought it odd that there are different makes front and rear (?)

Not a huge issue at all and I've let B&C in the UK know and asked them if they can match an EBC equivalent from the Nissin part number that is stamped into the backing plate.

But I'd be interested to hear from others on this - particularly if they have got a Brembo on the back !
 

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I've got Nissin on the rear, believe that is standard
 

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Nissin on the back is standard
 

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This Niisan Caliper has been knocking about on different bikes for years, it was fitted on the 1998 Honda Fireblade which I had in 1998, not sure if the pads are all the same size & shape though.
 

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I have a set of the gsxr brembo fronts on my ninja 1000. Like you noticed the pads are very weak.

I tried the ebc's but found them to be noisy and grit like feeling. I then switched to the Vesrah pads listed here:

Vesrah RJL Race Brake Pads VD 9031RJL 2 Sets Both Calipers 675R GSX R RSV4 RC8 | eBay

More power than ebc and very quiet.

As far as the brembo part of the caliper...I believe a licensing fee was paid to someone to produce these. I dont see them ever going near a brembo production facility.

Its a pretty good caliper, and I like the gold color, but at 10.000, we're not getting 1500.00 dollar brembo calipers.
 

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Thanks - that's good to know, will try the Vesrah if I have the same experience with the EBC ones
 

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Had the EBC HH pads in for a few hundred kms now. They do solve the lack of initial bite that the standard pads suffered (and I also experienced on previous GSXRs). I'm very pleased with them and would recommend to anyone else who wants to sharpen the braking up. I've heard that the Vesrahs are also great pads. But for the money these are really a great improvement.
 

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@Steve is this the EBC part number you fitted on the front FA447HH ?
It is the number for the GSXR1000 Brembo, no listing yet for the GSX-S1000.
 

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We kind of luck out with these calipers. Its a very common brake pad. You can run pads from the gsxr 1000, but also many of the ducatis and aprilias.

I would urge you to branch out and not automatically reach for the ebc brand. Its not a bad pad by any means, but its nothing like some of the pads we have access to. For example:

Vesrah RJL Race Brake Pads VD 9031RJL 2 Sets Both Calipers 675R GSX R RSV4 RC8 | eBay

Vesrah VD 9031 RJL XX Brake Pads for Brembo VD9031 XX Race Pads VD 9031RJLXX | eBay
 

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@Steve is this the EBC part number you fitted on the front FA447HH ?
It is the number for the GSXR1000 Brembo, no listing yet for the GSX-S1000.
Hi yes it is - B&C Express in the UK have pads listed for the GSX-S now - great service from those guys too
 

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Had the EBC HH pads in for a few hundred kms now. They do solve the lack of initial bite that the standard pads suffered (and I also experienced on previous GSXRs). I'm very pleased with them and would recommend to anyone else who wants to sharpen the braking up. I've heard that the Vesrahs are also great pads. But for the money these are really a great improvement.
Hi with the stock pads i need a full hand to brake hard enough for the abs to kick in...

with the EBC pads, are two fingers enough?
 

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Hi with the stock pads i need a full hand to brake hard enough for the abs to kick in...

with the EBC pads, are two fingers enough?
I've been running the EBC's for quite a while now and they are a definite improvement. Two fingers is normally all you need for hard braking but I have noticed a lot depends on where you grab the lever and how much mechanical advantage you have.
I've not managed to lock the wheel up but I haven't really been trying even though I do managed some pretty spirited riding at times, besides, the bike will stop faster if you don't have the ABS kick in;)
You won't be disappointed with them over standard but there are others out there which are stronger if that's what you want.
 

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I've been running the EBC's for quite a while now and they are a definite improvement. Two fingers is normally all you need for hard braking but I have noticed a lot depends on where you grab the lever and how much mechanical advantage you have.

I've not managed to lock the wheel up but I haven't really been trying even though I do managed some pretty spirited riding at times, besides, the bike will stop faster if you don't have the ABS kick in;)

You won't be disappointed with them over standard but there are others out there which are stronger if that's what you want.


The abs test I do is just for the track. If I can lock up hot tires to where the abs comes in then I'm braking too hard. But it's about how much force I need to apply for that to happen. Currently to brake aggressively and get good feel i need a full hand squeeze. But that messes my downshift blips. First bike I've had this issue with. It's got 5k miles so new pads will be in the mail asap.


Since I do some track it's been suggested to move up from the HH pads to the EPFA pads.

Anyone have experience with the EPFA pads? I do beat hard on them at the track.


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Vesrah makes the best stopping pad. XX, HH, SS or simply RJLs will all get the job done better than the stock pads.

For street use though I'd recommend the RJL pads from Vesrah.

Any of them can be purchased here https://bdracing.com/
 

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Vesrah makes the best stopping pad. XX, HH, SS or simply RJLs will all get the job done better than the stock pads.

For street use though I'd recommend the RJL pads from Vesrah.

Any of them can be purchased here https://bdracing.com/
Vesrah makes fantastic pads (tried RJL and SRJL), but ZCOO makes them better yet (the best I have tried, and that includes Ferodo XRAC, EBC HH, HRC Hard Bite, CL60).
 

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Vesrah makes fantastic pads (tried RJL and SRJL), but ZCOO makes them better yet (the best I have tried, and that includes Ferodo XRAC, EBC HH, HRC Hard Bite, CL60).
Try some of the Vesrah HH or SS pads. You'll flip your bike with one finger on the brake lever.

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Try some of the Vesrah HH or SS pads. You'll flip your bike with one finger on the brake lever.

:eek:
I am currently running Braketech CMC rotors and so am sticking with the recommended Ferodo XRAC pads for this particular application (not going to risk ruining these rotors with a pad change). When I get a bike with stainless rotors again, I may try them but unless they are new and revolutionary and a definite upgrade from the RJL and SRJL (whcih I tried and liked), they won't top the best ones I have tried to date, the ZCOOs. Look them up, search and see. Never read a bad review and everyone who tries them adopts them. I got turned onto them after reading some reviews from others and they were spot on: best pad available. Extremely powerful and amazingly controllable with great feedback. Easy on rotors and work in all conditions. They're not cheap, but the best seldom is.
 
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