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Hey guys I've been off the site for awhile and not kept up so I hope I hope I'm not rehashing, It's time for me to replace me tires at 6k and am considering bumping up to a 200/50 on the rear, has anyone gone this large and doe's it fit with no problem?
 

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I can tell you the 2008 Suzuki Bkings come with a 200/50 stock and I hated that tire size. Promptly switched it to a 190/55.

Now we do road race the 1000's on a 200/55 rear slick but it is a whole different animal of a tire verses a street tire. We also use a 190/55 on the rear slick of race bike 600s. Go figure.

I personally use the 190/55 on my GSX street bike and I like it a lot.
 

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I can tell you the 2008 Suzuki Bkings come with a 200/50 stock and I hated that tire size. Promptly switched it to a 190/55.
I went down that road with my B-King but I could not get used to it. I was hitting apexes too soon and having to lift the bike up to readjust. Plus it felt like the bike was "falling in" to slowish tight turns. I went back to the 200/50 and enjoyed the slower more controllable turn in. It's that experience that stops me from trying a 190/55 on the gsx-s.
But I'm getting on in years and maybe the phrase "old dog new tricks" applies.:)
 

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I have a Road Smart 3 190/55 and will never go back to 190/50. Turn in is just a tad quicker but much more linear with the 55 profile. In fact, I don't feel the bike turns faster really, it just turns BETTER. It rolls over smoother due to its rounder shape and gives confidence, where the 50 resists the initial roll and then falls in quicker.
 

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To complicate matters, every 190/55 tire does not have the same shape. You can tell this just looking at same-size tires in the store. The stock 190/50 seems to have a flatter profile than some others of the same spec. I recently put on a set of Michelin PR4 and went with the 55 rear. I really like the easier turn-in, it feels much more natural to this bike. The only down-side I've noticed is in steep lean angles and slower speeds, it starts to feel a little squirrley. Of course, not sure how much of this is the tire and how much is just my inexperience under those conditions - maybe a 50 would feel similar. The tread on the 55 tire goes farther around the edge and is more vertical at the edge...you have to lean it over further to get to the edge of the tire than with the stock. I strongly suspect that the 50 series PR4 would have a sharper profile than the stock tire and would also turn in easier.
 

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Thanks for your input guys, I'm going to go backwards a little and roll with a pilot power 2ct instead of the 3, i remember getting good miles on the 2ct , the 3 only gave me about 4500. It doe's not come in a 200 so I'll go 190/55
 

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My son has PP 2ct on his Gixxer (stock size), and they are excellent tires, as you obviously already know. I try to use the term sparingly, but it "totally transformed" that bike from the OEM tires that were on it.
 

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Waste of time and money going with the 200, to some might look cool but that's about it, stick with the stock size it will always be better then going oversize and will always turn and be more agile as engineered to be. If your not into extreme cornering then maybe it's an option however.
Either the 50 or 55 profile is personal preference - some tyres will work better with either profile and is debatable for rider setup or preference.
Good luck
 

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Waste of time and money, stick with the stock size it will always be better then going oversize. Will be more agile, turn better and grip better as engineered.
do not agree with this at all , on my third rear which i changed to a 55 much better, quicker turn in and feels much more stable would never go back to a 50
 

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If you read my post I said going to a 50 or 55 is debatable which is better.
Can you read? I suppose not!
You guys jump to conclusions without reading carefully. Obviously you have no idea.
 

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Waste of time and money going with the 200, to some might look cool but that's about it, stick with the stock size it will always be better then going oversize and will always turn and be more agile as engineered to be. If your not into extreme cornering then maybe it's an option however.
Either the 50 or 55 profile is personal preference - some tyres will work better with either profile and is debatable for rider setup or preference.
Good luck
Sorry, but you are just wrong! Have you actually tried a 200/55 with this bike?

Its like saying that any other shock will be worse than standard because the bike wasn't engineered for an Ohlins or Nitron. A Pirelli Supercorsa 200/55 is just 4mm wider than the supercorsa 190/55 and about the same width as a 190/50 dunlop, It is designed for a 6" Rim and it works better IMHO
 

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Waste of time and money going with the 200, to some might look cool but that's about it, stick with the stock size it will always be better then going oversize and will always turn and be more agile as engineered to be. If your not into extreme cornering then maybe it's an option however.
Either the 50 or 55 profile is personal preference - some tyres will work better with either profile and is debatable for rider setup or preference.
Good luck
If you read my post I said going to a 50 or 55 is debatable which is better.
Can you read? I suppose not!
You guys jump to conclusions without reading carefully. Obviously you have no idea.
obviously you know best, i have been riding bikes for thirty eight years but hey ho, can i read yes , can i spell maybe not but who cares ,i certainly dont life is to short:D
 

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never likes car,s with low profile tires.....just seemed like not the type of tire that would take a pothole. and seemed like a harsh ride..low sidewall on he 50 remind me of the same...ill probably lower tire pressure a bit on the 55..just seems like the taller side wall will give a better ride...love my s21
 

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When I went from my oem Dunlop to a PR4 50 I nearly fell sideways on the bike in leant over that much easier, next tyre I went to a PR4 55 to see what everyone was raving about in size difference and I felt no difference what so ever , I think the brands make a bigger difference than the size , that's my conclusion , (if only my wife would believe me that size doesn't matter much)
 

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A used PR4 50 to a new PR4 55 made no difference with wear from 90% riding in a straight line so it should have a flat centre ,a used Dunlop 50 to a new PR4 50 made all the difference, the difference was in the brand not the size , just my opinion though that ain't worth ****
 

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Biggest difference in those comparisons is used up tires vs brand new.
No doubt that's true in many cases, but when I went to PR4 (55 profile), the stock tires only had about 2000 miles of relatively easy riding on them so almost like new. I never liked them from day one. I had raised the forks to compensate, but put them back to stock with the new tires.
 

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I like my 190-50 Roadtec O1s. Have 4400 wheelie-filled miles and mucho tred left. In the twisty mountain roads, bike goes twice as fast as old 90-hp bike with about 1/2 the effort. :)
 
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