[17105]

Guys, I was installing my PCV (which I've done previously on 2 other bikes) and had followed the instructions to the letter. I lowered the tank and turned on the ignition to check things before I went through the arduous task of refitting all the fairings, etc. When I turn on the ignition, I now get an FI indicator, and the bike won't start. I've checked the fuel injection system fuse, and it looks OK. I have taken the PCV out of line (returned the bike to stock) and the problem persists. I'm hoping it's something as silly as me dislodging a connector somewhere, but I've been over all that I can see and I can't seem to find the problem. Can someone lend any advice please?

 

[matdaddy]

have you put the plastic thing back over the key with the transponder thing in it

 

[ackack]

In gear or killswitch?

 

[Schmedlab]

Rod, I just installed a PCV two days ago and fortunately for me, mine worked OK after the install. I'm trying to think what your problem could be since you uninstalled the PCV and you still get the FI indicator light. The problem started when you completed the PCV installation. Assuming that you made all of the connections correctly, I'm wondering if you pressed the connectors together until they "clicked". For me, this took a lot of force in a very confined work space and was difficult in some cases (especially cylinders 2 & 3 in the middle). So, when you returned it to stock are you sure the connectors are secure? If you accidentally bent a connector pin so that it didn't mate with the female side, I'm sure that would cause an FI error and you probably wouldn't have been able to seat the connectors until you heard or felt the click. Maybe you should check each connector to insure that it is fully seated. If you find one that isn't, disconnect it and check the male pins. Also, when you returned the bike to stock, did you remove the O2 Optimizer and reconnect the original connectors?

Rod, if none of the above helps and considering how difficult it was for me to disconnect most of the connectors, I think it is very possible that you partially dislodged a connector wire from one of the many connectors and that may be a difficult thing to resolve. That would also explain the FI indicator after returning the bike to stock. In that case, I think I would raise the tank as much as possible, turn on the ignition, and, as best you can, push each connector wire into its respective connector while watching the instrument panel (if that's even possible). Maybe the FI error would clear when and if you fine a loose wire.

I'm probably rambling so maybe someone else has some suggestions. I'll continue to think about it. Good luck.

 

[17105]

have you put the plastic thing back over the key with the transponder thing in it

I thought about it long enough to realise that this is exactly what I'd not done! Having never had a bike with an immobilizer before, I wasn't thinking about that! If you leave the ring off, the immobilizer appears to work by denying power to the EFI system. I feel like a right idiot, but I'm sure I won't do that again!

 

[WMus26]

Hi Guys, while we on this topic of PCV and fitting it yourself. I am getting my F in 2 weeks am thinking will probably have to fit a PCV to deal with the jerky throttle issue. Have never ever fitted one, and read all the threads, but was not 100% clear. With the revised fuel map for the GSXS, is it just a matter of downloading it from a website and loading it onto the PVC, or does it require actually messing around with the fuel map yourself. How long did it take to fit the PVC. I am generally fairly hands on type of guy and wondering it installing the PCV is something that I should do myself or take it to the specialists?

 

[sparehead1]

The other possible gotcha is the gear position sensor and the fuel pump, they are both on the left side of the engine and both use a 3 pin white triangle connector. Easy way to work out which is which is check to see which one has wires heading down into the gear box.

 

[17105]

Hi Guys, while we on this topic of PCV and fitting it yourself. I am getting my F in 2 weeks am thinking will probably have to fit a PCV to deal with the jerky throttle issue. Have never ever fitted one, and read all the threads, but was not 100% clear. With the revised fuel map for the GSXS, is it just a matter of downloading it from a website and loading it onto the PVC, or does it require actually messing around with the fuel map yourself. How long did it take to fit the PVC. I am generally fairly hands on type of guy and wondering it installing the PCV is something that I should do myself or take it to the specialists?

The PCV comes pre-loaded with the correct map, assuming your bike is stock. No messing around. I just got back from my test ride, and the difference is like night and day... very happy.

 

[WMus26]

Hi Rod Bacon. Thanks that helps. I think then I definitely install it myself. And good to hear its working so well. How long did it take you to install?

 

[17105]

Hi Rod Bacon. Thanks that helps. I think then I definitely install it myself. And good to hear its working so well. How long did it take you to install?

As I was being extra-careful not to scratch anything, and it was the first time I've lifted the tank (I have an F model), about an hour. You can see the process (on a naked) at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVy7-WV1_ag

 

[Stevie]

Hi Guys, while we on this topic of PCV and fitting it yourself. I am getting my F in 2 weeks am thinking will probably have to fit a PCV to deal with the jerky throttle issue. Have never ever fitted one, and read all the threads, but was not 100% clear. With the revised fuel map for the GSXS, is it just a matter of downloading it from a website and loading it onto the PVC, or does it require actually messing around with the fuel map yourself. How long did it take to fit the PVC. I am generally fairly hands on type of guy and wondering it installing the PCV is something that I should do myself or take it to the specialists?

The PCV come prepared loaded and all you have to do is follow the instructions which are really good with great detailed pics on them, you won't go wrong. I too had never fitted one before and attempted it myself. It's not a problem to fit and you will actually spend more time taking panels off and putting them back on than fitting the PCV. Just be careful taking off and putting on the meter panel as this is the one that will scratch the top panel of the fuel tank.

 

[Mdala]

WMus26,
Taking the fairings off & raising the tank is the worst job. You need to squeeze the locking catches down on the injector plugs, if you have a good grip & long thin fingers, no problem, otherwise long nose pliers & a small lever to ease them off. Make sure you have the correct throttle position plug & use plenty of silicon spray on the plugs to ease the reconnection. The earth wire is plenty long as is the main cable to fit under the pillion seat, just take your time & recheck every thing before refitting fairings. Go well.

 

[rcannon409]

Hi Guys, while we on this topic of PCV and fitting it yourself. I am getting my F in 2 weeks am thinking will probably have to fit a PCV to deal with the jerky throttle issue. Have never ever fitted one, and read all the threads, but was not 100% clear. With the revised fuel map for the GSXS, is it just a matter of downloading it from a website and loading it onto the PVC, or does it require actually messing around with the fuel map yourself. How long did it take to fit the PVC. I am generally fairly hands on type of guy and wondering it installing the PCV is something that I should do myself or take it to the specialists?

I would also add this. With regards to computer ability, I rank right at, or below, the idiot level. Thats being known, I had zero problems with power commander software.

Even if your pcv is not pre loaded, or you find a better map later, its simple to change maps.

You can also load a map from an android smart phone.

Power Commander Motorcycle Fuel Injection Tuning Module

It also requires an adapter. I found one on ebay and did not order theirs as shipping was so expensive. I just bought a female to male mini usb and that worked fine.

The reason I mention this is because its important to set the throttle position sensor, and you pretty much need a connection to a computer to do this.

All its doing is calibrating the pcv to your bike when you do this and its easier to do than describe. Heres a good video. Oh yea, your bike will sound better than his video bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosy7duBhx4

 

[tonyt]

Thanks for all the good info chaps ... Still waiting on my PC-V to be delivered, getting on for 3 weeks now..

 

[LuckyGS]

Yes, thanks to all for the tips.


Ordered my PCV and Autotune yesterday.

 

[vnuh]

While we are talking about PCV, i wanna ask if it fixes the snatchy throttle problem?

 

[WMus26]

Thanks all for all the comments and tips.

 

[17105]

While we are talking about PCV, i wanna ask if it fixes the snatchy throttle problem?

It certainly does! I had my first ride to work this morning with it fitted, and it's a different bike (especially at slow, heavy traffic, lane-filtering speeds). It was a fantastic bike before, now it's as close to perfect as anything I've ever imagined.

 

[17105]

Yes, thanks to all for the tips.


Ordered my PCV and Autotune yesterday.

I believe if you're fitting the autotune, you have a little more work to do. Besides fitting the autotune components, I'm told you need to disable the PAIR system. I'm sure the documentation will cover that.

 

[vnuh]

I'm switching from R6 to this badass, though the snatchy thing is not big of an issue compare to the R6. The fix certainly makes this an ideal bike for me, I wished I made the switch earlier.
One of my friend after a test ride on our S1000 decided to trade his hyperstrada for the Suz happily.

It certainly does! I had my first ride to work this morning with it fitted, and it's a different bike (especially at slow, heavy traffic, lane-filtering speeds). It was a fantastic bike before, now it's as close to perfect as anything I've ever imagined.